now what?

penguin7

1) How bad was it to get involved here?

2) What do I do now ?

Hand History #472257011 (19:05 01/02/2012)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceLEE001Small blind £0.10£0.10£77.07The_GixerBig blind £0.20£0.30£33.70 Your hole cards66   SKILL324Raise £0.80£1.10£10.6305clishambCall £0.80£1.90£9.00penguin7Call £0.80£2.70£16.06ugotsunk22Call £0.80£3.50£8.00abbottm28Fold    LEE001Fold    The_GixerRaise £3.00£6.50£30.70SKILL324Call £2.40£8.90£8.2305clishambCall £2.40£11.30£6.60penguin7Call £2.40£13.70£13.66ugotsunk22Fold    Flop  547   The_GixerBet £10.28£23.98£20.42SKILL324All-in £8.23£32.21£0.0005clishambAll-in £6.60£38.81£0.00penguin7

Dudeskin8

I can't see stack sizes here so not sure if you had odds to call 3bet pre.

On flop I fold.

pod1

lol, right fine mess. folded on reraise woulda been a start. personally i grab "them" with one hand , gulp half a glass of wine and hit the call button with the other. ps close your eyes and listen to the beeps :-)

penguin7

Raiser had biggest stack, and I started hand with about £16.50.

Think calling initial 80p was fine, if I am going to set mine I want to be in a 4way pot ?

Reraise looked like a squeeze, but once again with 2 callers in front of me, there is already £11.30 in pot. So its £2.40 to see a flop, knowing I have to fold if I miss the set.

If I hit the set, the implied odds are almost guaranteed with 3 opponents.

But that flop totally threw me

rancid

call

edit: gixer not all in, shove weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

if we call we only have £x behind - so shove
if our sd is good then we can call, but can't leave £x behind with the pot size imo

not sure 100% about the £x, but sure I am ok here )

got £12-13 on flop

DOHHHHHHH

Don't like maths questions

Sum1 work it out? ....

pod1

me either, hence my reply

NColley

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Don't like maths questions Sum1 work it out? ....
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

how are you going to assign hands for the 2 all ins before us and the probable call behind, the side pot between hero and bigstack won't be big enough imo..

1x AA/KK
1x SET
1x STRAIGHT

If any of them have the straight then we have virtually no equity left in the hand btw.

WHOAMI196

wow havent been here in agesss, ...

You rarely get set odds in holdem (7.5-1) . . . but your not far off facing the £2.40 pre-flop, and with high implied odds (being multi-way). So its a no-brainer call for me pre-flop. Flop is a little tricky, most of the time you will have 10 clean outs. . . . (Edit: being abitious i know, BUT i would still base my move on having 10 outs here)

So your roughly 40% chance to hit (2.5-1) . . . and you need to call £10 to win £38, as you can see the math says snap call . . . (i would shove flop)

LOL_RAISE

fold pre, i would only call if everyone was 100bb+ deep.

get it in on flop

rancid

In Response to Re: now what?:

In Response to Re: now what? : how are you going to assign hands for the 2 all ins before us and the probable call behind, the side pot between hero and bigstack won't be big enough imo.. 1x AA/KK 1x SET 1x STRAIGHT If any of them have the straight then we have virtually no equity left in the hand btw.
Posted by NColley

Think we can say our SD is good only, we have blockers so...

8 outs, marginal but shove />call

penguin7

Needless to say I shoved ! Never  could find fold button in these spots.

Will post rest of hand after tourny I am in finishes.

Some surprises out there

penguin7

Hand History #472257011 (19:05 01/02/2012)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceLEE001Small blind £0.10£0.10£77.07The_GixerBig blind £0.20£0.30£33.70 Your hole cards66   SKILL324Raise £0.80£1.10£10.6305clishambCall £0.80£1.90£9.00penguin7Call £0.80£2.70£16.06ugotsunk22Call £0.80£3.50£8.00abbottm28Fold    LEE001Fold    The_GixerRaise £3.00£6.50£30.70SKILL324Call £2.40£8.90£8.2305clishambCall £2.40£11.30£6.60penguin7Call £2.40£13.70£13.66ugotsunk22Fold    Flop  547   The_GixerBet £10.28£23.98£20.42SKILL324All-in £8.23£32.21£0.0005clishambAll-in £6.60£38.81£0.00penguin7All-in £13.66£52.47£0.00The_GixerCall £3.38£55.85£17.04The_GixerShowQQ   SKILL324Show4A   05clishambShow98   penguin7Show66   Turn  9   River  5   SKILL324WinFlush to the Ace£43.54 £43.54The_GixerWinTwo Pairs, Queens and 5s£10.51 £27.55Close window

penguin7

Unbelievable ? If those two hadnt made such loose calls, I would not have had the value to play either.

Sick outcome !

RONALDO80

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1) How bad was it to get involved here? 2) What do I do now ? Hand History #472257011 (19:05 01/02/2012) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance LEE001 Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £77.07 The_Gixer Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £33.70   Your hole cards 6 6       SKILL324 Raise   £0.80 £1.10 £10.63 05clishamb Call   £0.80 £1.90 £9.00 penguin7 Call   £0.80 £2.70 £16.06 ugotsunk22 Call   £0.80 £3.50 £8.00 abbottm28 Fold         LEE001 Fold         The_Gixer Raise   £3.00 £6.50 £30.70 SKILL324 Call   £2.40 £8.90 £8.23 05clishamb Call   £2.40 £11.30 £6.60 penguin7 Call   £2.40 £13.70 £13.66 ugotsunk22 Fold         Flop     5 4 7       The_Gixer Bet   £10.28 £23.98 £20.42 SKILL324 All-in   £8.23 £32.21 £0.00 05clishamb All-in   £6.60 £38.81 £0.00 penguin7
Posted by penguin7

i would push all in , if your behind, you still have outs

huuuuume

i think you have to fold pre flop if you know that you are not going to be able to fold that flop.

i will prob call pre flop in your spot here a lot but i will make the fold on the flop with the way the action goes.

i definitley dont play these spots nearly well enough though and would assume the correct play is to fold pre flop but to me that just feels a little dirty because we could always hit a set and sets look pretty.

at 0.10/0.20 i think you should be folding this flop most of the time because the nature of the stakes means there's such a high chance that the smaller stacked opponents hold blockers to your draw or have already setted up.  also gixxer never has anything other than an over pair here. 

grantorino

fold to 3bet pre

jam flop