Rebuy open

rancid

 Anyone folding
Standard all in clap hands ya ?
What we putting oppo on, random player
£11 open rebuy
120 left, sitting 30thish
MTT game sucking lately so just asking for opnions

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
housty49	Small blind		150.00	150.00	10572.50
1mad	Big blind		300.00	450.00	1822.50
	Your hole cards	K K
ian00001	Raise		900.00	1350.00	15015.00
rancid	Raise		2700.00	4050.00	15201.25
chats312	Fold
frielste03	Fold
housty49	Fold
1mad	Fold
ian00001	Call		1800.00	5850.00	13215.00
Flop
		4 9 5
ian00001	Check
rancid	Bet		4387.50	10237.50	10813.75
ian00001	Raise		8775.00	19012.50	4440.00
rancid

WHOAMI196

is there still re buys??

either way really, its a shove but because the board is dry there is poss of a set BUT Air-balling or under pairs to your kk is a poss which are a larger part of his range.

AcidMan27

I'd be shipping it here but i'm spewing lately in MTT's.

I think they show up enough times with Jacks and Queens. They could have 10's, maybe 9's.

Ace could be a possibility but not sure if they would flat your 3-bet with aces.

DOHHHHHHH

Bet flop smaller, n don't fold.

potattoooo

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

Bet flop smaller, n don't fold.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

THIS

grantorino

yep, what doh said

Jameskr

definitely a shove, maybe he's on a9 suited?

IDONKCALLU

id bet 3k on flop and snap call a jam u cant even conisider folding on this flop with kings 

rancid

Why are we betting flop smaller

So annoying

Flop
		4 9 5
ian00001	Check
rancid	Bet		4387.50	10237.50	10813.75
ian00001	Raise		8775.00	19012.50	4440.00
rancid	All-in		10813.75	29826.25	0.00
ian00001	All-in		4440.00	34266.25	0.00
rancid	Unmatched bet		1986.25	32280.00	1986.25
ian00001	Show	9 9
rancid	Show	K K
Turn
		Q
River
		2
ian00001	Win	Three 9s	32280.00		32280.00

Poker_Fail

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

Why are we betting flop smaller So annoying Flop

Keep in weaker hands.

Make some oppo's think they have FE so they can bluff shove overcards, happens a LOT in these rebuy games.

rancid

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

In Response to Re: Rebuy open : Keep in weaker hands. Make some oppo's think they have FE so they can bluff shove overcards, happens a LOT in these rebuy games.
Posted by Poker_Fail

Seemed like most of the players couldn't spell fold equity

Poker_Fail

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

In Response to Re: Rebuy open : Seemed like most of the players couldn't spell fold equity
Posted by rancid

Probably not but it's not a rare play for an oppo to shove on that flop with AK AQ etc

Dudeskin8

Yeah bet flop smaller as you need to save chips for times you have AK/AQ etc and also let them think they can move you off the hand.

As played just cooler.

angie6108

your bet on the flop w as bad then rancid if ya thinking of folding to a shove should of bet smaller 

AMYBR

I likely make it 2300 - 2400 pre.  Gives him more room to shove.

Its a bad call as it by 9's pre given stacks but you know this.

Pretty much auto stack off from flop given tourney stage, stacks.  Hate the flop min so much.  I think I open about 10-15% smaller on flop, but always to get it in.

Just vul bud.  Flop min is polarising but isnt always going to be a set.  We have 35 bbs left if we fold?  Myeh I prob get stubborn also.  Chalk up as a cooler and open another table.

rancid

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

I likely make it 2300 - 2400 pre.  Gives him more room to shove. Its a bad call as it by 9's pre given stacks but you know this. Pretty much auto stack off from flop given tourney stage, stacks.  Hate the flop min so much.  I think I open about 10-15% smaller on flop, but always to get it in. Just vul bud.  Flop min is polarising but isnt always going to be a set.  We have 35 bbs left if we fold?  Myeh I prob get stubborn also.  Chalk up as a cooler and open another table.
Posted by AMYBR

This is so annoying because these players calling 3 bet oop with mid prs with not the correct implied odds and just gamble. 3xUTG open and then raises flop, did think AA/set lol - sometimes you just can not account for random bads - most of the time oppo gets stacked on no paint flops gg, cabs outside - not much consolation in a do or die  MTT though

Anyway ofc I am never folding, even though I read as AA/set but just can't fold with so many hands I can beat here - I even doubt oppo would be good enough to flat 3 bet oppo w/AA :S
Maybe could bet flop smaller and induce aggro shove from worse, future consideration

JackoG9

In Response to Re: Rebuy open:

In Response to Re: Rebuy open : This is so annoying because these players calling 3 bet oop with mid prs with not the correct implied odds and just gamble. 3xUTG open and then raises flop, did think AA/set lol - sometimes you just can not account for random bads - most of the time oppo gets stacked on no paint flops gg, cabs outside - not much consolation in a do or die  MTT though Anyway ofc I am never folding, even though I read as AA/set but just can't fold with so many hands I can beat here - I even doubt oppo would be good enough to flat 3 bet oppo w/AA :S Maybe could bet flop smaller and induce aggro shove from worse, future consideration
Posted by rancid

Hate this feeling - having to call when you 'know' you're beaten. But his call of your 3 bet was more likely to be tens, JJ or QQ than nines, which is a very bad call as been stated. Min raise on flop is a worry but you've put too much in by then in my opinion.