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Playing 2 pair

edited February 2012 in The Poker Clinic
2 hands where I flop and go aggro with 2 pair. 2 very different outcomes. How do YOU play them?
SJspanky1 Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £57.60
ian00001 Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £38.50
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 7
     
winner5603 Call   £0.50 £1.25 £92.96
Boyler8 Raise   £2.00 £3.25 £60.95
nightnurse Fold        
delpotty Fold        
SJspanky1 Call   £1.75 £5.00 £55.85
ian00001 Fold        
winner5603 Call   £1.50 £6.50 £91.46
Flop
   
  • J
  • 5
  • 7
     
SJspanky1 Check        
winner5603 Check        
Boyler8 Bet   £3.50 £10.00 £57.45
SJspanky1 Call   £3.50 £13.50 £52.35
winner5603 Call   £3.50 £17.00 £87.96
Turn
   
  • 3
     
SJspanky1 Bet   £12.75 £29.75 £39.60
winner5603 Fold        
Boyler8 All-in   £57.45 £87.20 £0.00
SJspanky1 All-in   £39.60 £126.80 £0.00
Boyler8 Unmatched bet   £5.10 £121.70 £5.10
SJspanky1 Show
  • 5
  • 7
     
Boyler8 Show
  • J
  • J
     
River
   
  • 9
     
Boyler8 Win Three Jacks £119.90   £125.00
And the more preferable result...
tatohead Small blind   £0.20 £0.20 £71.90
SJspanky1 Big blind   £0.40 £0.60 £48.17
  Your hole cards
  • 4
  • 5
     
shawsok Raise   £1.20 £1.80 £37.07
nejl1970 Call   £1.20 £3.00 £36.99
tatohead Call   £1.00 £4.00 £70.90
SJspanky1 Call   £0.80 £4.80 £47.37
Flop
   
  • J
  • 4
  • 5
     
tatohead Check        
SJspanky1 Bet   £2.40 £7.20 £44.97
shawsok Call   £2.40 £9.60 £34.67
nejl1970 Call   £2.40 £12.00 £34.59
tatohead Fold        
Turn
   
  • K
     
SJspanky1 Bet   £12.00 £24.00 £32.97
shawsok Fold        
nejl1970 Call   £12.00 £36.00 £22.59
River
   
  • A
     
SJspanky1 All-in   £32.97 £68.97 £0.00
nejl1970 All-in   £22.59 £91.56 £0.00
SJspanky1 Unmatched bet   £10.38 £81.18 £10.38
SJspanky1 Show
  • 4
  • 5
     
nejl1970 Show
  • Q
  • K
     
SJspanky1 Win Two Pairs, 5s and 4s £79.38   £89.76

Comments

  • edited February 2012
    Hand 1, because your not closing the action its a fold pre.

    Hand 2.  Always peeling flop.  But B/fing maybe c/cing river.  Board runs out yuk.  Only really beating JQ/J10, which wont call in any case.
  • edited February 2012
    1. fold pre

    2. c/c river (KQ is a tad optismistic)
  • edited February 2012
    hand 1 is a fold because villain is far too tight for this call oop to ever be worth it in the long run.  also neither winner or boyler will pay you off light so the value with this type of hand is much lower

    hand 2 i would be far more tempted to call because of who is raising. 

    with the hands you are posting it looks like you need to look closer at the ranges you are attibuting to regs when they play back at you. 
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Playing 2 pair:
    hand 1 is a fold because villain is far too tight for this call oop to ever be worth it in the long run.  also neither winner or boyler will pay you off light so the value with this type of hand is much lower hand 2 i would be far more tempted to call because of who is raising.  with the hands you are posting it looks like you need to look closer at the ranges you are attibuting to regs when they play back at you. 
    Posted by huuuuume

    Thanks for the advice my friend. I haven't played much with either Boyler or Winner or Britrock from other post as I'm a newbie at NL50 but I'm learning a painful lesson. TBH there's probably more value in me sticking at NL30/40 where villains will pay off light. There's some easy money to be made at NL50 at weekends but through the daily grind unless theres 1 or 2 fish at the table its pretty tough to make money as fast even though limit is higher.

    Now off to do my lines.."I will tighten my range at NL50,I will tighten my range at NL50..."
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Playing 2 pair:
    In Response to Re: Playing 2 pair : Thanks for the advice my friend. I haven't played much with either Boyler or Winner or Britrock from other post as I'm a newbie at NL50 but I'm learning a painful lesson. TBH there's probably more value in me sticking at NL30/40 where villains will pay off light. There's some easy money to be made at NL50 at weekends but through the daily grind unless theres 1 or 2 fish at the table its pretty tough to make money as fast even though limit is higher. Now off to do my lines.."I will tighten my range at NL50,I will tighten my range at NL50..."
    Posted by SJspanky1
    lol...its only recently that its become super tight at nl50.  personally it make things a lot easier for me as my 3bets go through more lol
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