Standard Squeeze or suicide?

jugglegeek

Playing a £10 buy-in MTT at local casino. I have been playing pretty tight so far because of loose table and not getting many good starting hands. Level 4 blinds 400/200/50 I have 8K in the small blind. New player at table UTG+1 min-raises from 10K stack and gets 3 callers from 3 of your standard "call to hit, calling stations" they each have 40K, 9K and 30K. I have limited reads on the UTG+1 player but he has opened 3 pots so far with a min-raise once showing KJs from the cut-off

With 4,200 in the pot already is it a good play to shove with A2o. I figure I am 30% against just about any hand that calls except aces and there is a good oppertunity to steal the pot.

AMYBR

£10 MTT am going to be playing pretty ABC tbh, definately wont be getting involed in a spot with this much intrest and resistance.  Think you get called by virtually any PP.

Think you have time to wait for spots or create better ones imo.

Sorry am posting so much everyone BTW.  Broke my leg in three places (aswell as a few other cosmetic injuries) and am kind of housebound and bored to tears.  Apologies if is OTT.  Gives brain something to work at.

BorinLoner

As a general rule squeezing into a raiser and more than one caller is not a great idea. In theory it works - the hands ought to get weaker and weaker as the pot-odds for a call get better, so we only really need to worry about the raisers hand - but if we've already got these guys pinned as "Calling stations" we need to be expecting them to call our squeeze with a very wide range. If you have a premium hand you can exploit them by making the squeeze-mimicking raise but with A2 we're hoping that, if one of the stations does call, they have a KQ type hand. I'm sick of making this move and getting looked up by a station with A9 and being crushed... The two shorter stacks (10k and 9k) may be looking to gamble for a double up and the two larger stacks may be willing to give you a spin with what they see as a marginal hand like that A9.

This is a reasonable/slightly dubious spot for a squeeze but only against what you might call "moderately skilled" players. Otherwise exploit the calling stations' tendencies and wait for a big hand to milk them with.

BigBluster

Good spot for a squeeze - bad hand for it though! With A2 you're really only playng one card and will be dominated if called. T7, J8, Q9.... all are much better hands to squeeze with in this situation.

BorinLoner

When we're squeezing it's not really a matter of hand-strength. The purpose of squeezing is simply to get everyone to fold. If we get called, then our little squeeze-play adventure has already gone awry... If you're squeezing, your hand doesn't matter...

...and if it did matter, then T7, J8 and Q9 would not be good hands to squeeze with at all. They're all easily dominated by the hands we'd get called by and they don't work too well together either. If you'd say 67s or 45s, that would make some sense but why use two-gappers as an example?

BigBluster

In Response to Re: Standard Squeeze or suicide?:

When we're squeezing it's not really a matter of hand-strength. The purpose of squeezing is simply to get everyone to fold. If we get called, then our little squeeze-play adventure has already gone awry... If you're squeezing, your hand doesn't matter... ...and if it did matter, then T7, J8 and Q9 would not be good hands to squeeze with at all. They're all easily dominated by the hands we'd get called by and they don't work too well together either. If you'd say 67s or 45s, that would make some sense but why use two-gappers as an example?
Posted by BorinLoner

... because the hands that are likely to call you are big Aces. The examples are two-gappers by accident. I was just trying to portray that these kind of hands are likely to give you a decent chance if called and are unlikely to be dominated.

BorinLoner

I see. So we're thinking along the same lines. I just wouldn't want to be holding Q9 when I get called on those occasions when the opponent turns over AQ or KQ. Even against AA, KK or QQ, a 45-type, low-connecting hand has a better chance than the Q9 but I accept that you weren't intentionally advocating two-gappers specifically.

As I say though Juggle, when you're making a sqeeze your only intention is to make your opponents fold. When you spot a potential squeeze spot, you shouldn't let your hand put you off, even if it is A2 or 72... I just don't think this is a good spot to squeeze considering you think the other players are stations. Wait until you can be first to bet or can make a 3-bet against a single opponent, when holding a real hand.

rancid

Squeeze is fine but would rarther have 40% at best if called ie. 78/10J - than A2 - your going to be called by Ax and prs so.....

If any of the callers are tight passive, don't bother squeezing - more likely call your shove with Q's or something WHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!

penguin7

I have a pathological hatred of playing A2 in any circumstances

grantorino

prob fold this live, esp a long way from the money but depends a bit on villains