Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in

ACEGOONER

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceLnarinOOSmall blind £0.20£0.20£40.00ACEGOONERBig blind £0.40£0.60£40.22 Your hole cards3K   MRGARYCall £0.40£1.00£23.52mikeyoneyeFold    LnarinOOCall £0.20£1.20£39.80ACEGOONERCheck    Flop  105A   LnarinOOCheck    ACEGOONERCheck    MRGARYCheck    Turn  6   LnarinOOBet £1.20£2.40£38.60ACEGOONERCall £1.20£3.60£39.02MRGARYCall £1.20£4.80£22.32River  8   LnarinOOBet £3.60£8.40£35.00ACEGOONERRaise £7.20£15.60£31.82MRGARYAll-in £22.32£37.92£0.00LnarinOOAll-in £35.00£72.92£0.00ACEGOONERFold    LnarinOOUnmatched bet £16.28£56.64£16.28LnarinOOShow2A   MRGARYShow79   MRGARYWinStraight Flush to the 9£54.84 £54.84

Sometimes I get this gut feeling that im behind and fold as here,  but poker purists say I am not playing optimal poker being this nitty. Is it reasonable to assume that one of my opponents has the nut flush (and I dont mean str8!)  and therefore its a snap fold or am I just being the risk averse nit, JJ keeps on going on about. 

penguin7

Good fold

WHOAMI196

sick hand lol....you'r fold makes it easier that it is a limped pot, still very sick fold, wp.

yb

don't show results, you aren't going to get any meaningful responeses now

Talon

  As it turns out you made a very good fold but i am really not sure if it was the right one TBH.

  But more importantly for you is the fact that you can make some very good notes on your two opponents because of the way that this hand was played. Their limping ranges and also the sort of boards that they need to hit before being willing to commit chips to the pot. These things are vital for when playing them again making it easier for you to sort your own ranges against them. Correct usage of this sort of information is vital when playing opponents on several occassions

ACEGOONER

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don't show results, you aren't going to get any meaningful responeses now
Posted by yb

Im sure most serious poker players will ignore the outcome. 

yb

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In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in : Im sure most serious poker players will ignore the outcome. 
Posted by ACEGOONER

lol rubdowns ftw

i'm just saying that it's hard to remain totally unbiased when people see you folded the third best hand, the serious poker players would probably agree

splashies

Yeh leave the results out for better answers.

grantorino

agree with yb, results better left out

I think its a standard fold as played, esp if they are 2 regs. I raise river bigger though. Turn call of pot bet is marginal imo, not sure implied odds are great here

ACEGOONER

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In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in : lol rubdowns ftw i'm just saying that it's hard to remain totally unbiased when people see you folded the third best hand, the serious poker players would probably agree
Posted by yb

Wernt meant to be a rubdown but point taken.

AMYBR

Nice brag post.  Dont see how you can ever call tbh.

IDONKCALLU

tbh i am never folding this i think in the long run its a bad fold welldone for folding and u will get credit i donty think its a profitable fold in the long run here your only getting beat by 1 hand 

WHOAMI196

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tbh i am never folding this i think in the long run its a bad fold welldone for folding and u will get credit i donty think its a profitable fold in the long run here your only getting beat by 1 hand 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

2 hands. .

IDONKCALLU

still 2 hands chances of str8 flush cmon i just aint folding this might be bad but just aint i think its a nitty fold and a losing fold long term i see 200 nl people would bust here 

grantorino

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still 2 hands chances of str8 flush cmon i just aint folding this might be bad but just aint i think its a nitty fold and a losing fold long term i see 200 nl people would bust here 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

limped pot
flop checked thru
turn pot lead 2 calls
river brings in flush, action goes bet/raise/cold 3bet/shove.

You really think K hi flush is good here enough to call? Esp when at least one of villains is a reg

WHOAMI196

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still 2 hands chances of str8 flush cmon i just aint folding this might be bad but just aint i think its a nitty fold and a losing fold long term i see 200 nl people would bust here 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

I could never give an answer on what i would do in this spot unless i was in it, if i was v 2 donks i might stack off? maybie i would still fold, if i was playing solid regs i would reluctantly fold i think, poss insta fold (i doubt if this was the case, it would never be a limped pot v regs i play with). Its important to note that it was a limped pot, which makes a big difference with the decision making.

IDONKCALLU

all i say is easy to say fold but if u are playing are u actually folding its a great fold but imo not a profitable fold long term 

ACEGOONER

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all i say is easy to say fold but if u are playing are u actually folding its a great fold but imo not a profitable fold long term 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

I agree in a HU situation, but not three way as the hand played out. One of the players is a competent reg (who I have had some tussles with over the weekend), the other I dont know.

You say that playing this way is not profitable but I can tell you that I have played 10s of thousands of cash game hands on sky and this is probably the first time ive experienced this situation.

AMYBR

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In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in : limped pot flop checked thru turn pot lead 2 calls river brings in flush, action goes bet/raise/cold 3bet/shove. You really think K hi flush is good here enough to call? Esp when at least one of villains is a reg
Posted by grantorino

Exactly.

It wouldnt even occur to me to think "there are only 2 hands beating me in this spot".

Only thing I'd be thinking is there is a lead, raise re raise and call in front of me.  Big ole sigh fold imo.  River range of oppononts is beyond polarised

rancid

silly limped pot

at this level )


good fold, can never be good here three way

AMYBR

We raise river for what we believe to be value, but get played back at in two spots  River opener is able to call despite two seats getting aggro over his open.

We can put one player on an overplayed hand, but not both.  Obv call with Ac, but - as the action plays - I never call here

Poker_Fail

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, can never be good here three way
Posted by rancid

But it's not gay if it's a 3way

ACEGOONER

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silly limped pot at this level ) good fold, can never be good here three way
Posted by rancid

You think peeps dont limp at nl40/50? 

Note that I was in the BB and forced into the action and it nearly cost me a stack !

liamboi11

lnarin00 is a gd solid player so when he bets river againist 2 opponents then gets raised the re raised and he shoves allin he has you you obv knew that so really gd fold in that spot.

BorinLoner

Are you sure this isn't a brag post? The fold on the river is nice. My compliments.

The call of the full-pot bet on the turn, with 20% chance to hit is a bit questionable. I think you have to be convinced that you'll get paid big every time you hit. Maybe you were convinced, I don't know, but it would be nice to hear your thoughts.

rancid

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In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in : You think peeps dont limp at nl40/50?  Note that I was in the BB and forced into the action and it nearly cost me a stack !
Posted by ACEGOONER

If they do then they must have a very obvious limp range from UTG & SB, so it was a very easy fold for you )
Well unless they limp AA-78s UTG!
Where's the balance Gooner

& yes I see u BB Why you not raise pre, surely you can exploit this )

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in:

In Response to Re: Folding K high flush to 4 and 5 bet all in : If they do then they must have a very obvious limp range from UTG & SB, so it was a very easy fold for you ) Well unless they limp AA-78s UTG! Where's the balance Gooner & yes I see u BB Why you not raise pre, surely you can exploit this )
Posted by rancid

Coz gooners pre flop raising range is AA/KK/QQ & Q9.

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Why were results left in if it's not a brag? 

hmmmmm.......

The jury is out !!!

YOUNG_GUN

Wrong section  

Yer obv ppl going to say easy fold with results so pointlesss thread now  

nice fold then goonhead

ACEGOONER

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Wrong section   Yer obv ppl going to say easy fold with results so pointlesss thread now   nice fold then goonhead
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Dont you start! 

The next person that says the word "brag" im going to send jj round to sit on them. Im not a poker clinic reg so guess I need to know the form before posting a hand again !

GREGHOGG

Brag

Which is unusual for a gooner this season!



P.S visit the clinic more, its fun round here, dudenit says fold alot, grantorino says flat call alot, and dohhhhhhh says all in alot

YOUNG_GUN

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Brag Which is unusual for a gooner this season!
Posted by GREGHOGG

LOL hoggers wants JJ to sit on his face :P