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MTT, extremely standard fold, right?
Was discussing this hand with a m8, n he insists I should be calling here.
His reasons were...
a) "because of stack sizes"
b) "because they will be holding eachothers cards"
I personally think this is the easiest fold I had to make all tourny, but said I would post it & if 1 good mtt player says call, I'd give him a tenner.
It's a £2 MTT, 10 off the money.
The shoving ranges in these tournys r ridic narrow, & the calling/reshoving ranges obv even more so. It's part of a last longer competition.....
We're 10 off the money.
No reads on the shover, but Madmoo is probably the most solid player in the tournament.
It's standard for players in this to fold right down to 3/4/5/6xbb, esp on & around the bubble.
Thoughts?
His reasons were...
a) "because of stack sizes"
b) "because they will be holding eachothers cards"
I personally think this is the easiest fold I had to make all tourny, but said I would post it & if 1 good mtt player says call, I'd give him a tenner.
It's a £2 MTT, 10 off the money.
The shoving ranges in these tournys r ridic narrow, & the calling/reshoving ranges obv even more so. It's part of a last longer competition.....
We're 10 off the money.
No reads on the shover, but Madmoo is probably the most solid player in the tournament.
It's standard for players in this to fold right down to 3/4/5/6xbb, esp on & around the bubble.
Thoughts?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MADMOO | Small blind | 400.00 | 400.00 | 9827.50 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Big blind | 800.00 | 1200.00 | 37343.75 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| wynne1938 | Fold | ||||
| coles01 | Fold | ||||
| rusty762 | All-in | 4647.50 | 5847.50 | 0.00 | |
| MADMOO | All-in | 9827.50 | 15675.00 | 0.00 | |
| DOHHHHHHH |
Comments
stove see how much equity you have v 2 prs of overs
there is a thereom somewhere, can't remeber what it's called though
do I get the tenner )
pay this much to call and win x, what do we need here 45% equity at a guess :S
But were flying by the seat of our pants lol very likely at least one has over pair
but I do call )
I'll have to get back to you because there is a therom that if you know your behind you can still call given circumstance but I don't think this is one of them
for what reason do you call?
cause math says 9k to win 24.5k = 2.5-1
MadMoo's shoving range is never worse than 55 let alone their re-shoving range its always going to be 88+ AJ/AQ+
(basically going to be flipping maybe 3/10 times, every other time going to be drawing to 2 outs)
knowing MadMoo's ranges this is a snap fold everytime calling here in a spot we are crushed in 90% of the time is just pure spew
DON'T BE A BIG GIRL
Both players sharing range would be a factor I agree.
If reads tell us one player is shoving with pp we can fold, especially if its the larger stack. But if we think all the paint range (which it ought to be) is there then I personally would call.
We are going to be taking tonnes of flips from this point forward in any case. You know the importance of chip accumilation moving forward.
Given stacks, I likely call.
Payouts are pretty valueless outside of the final table, so unless you were on for winning the DTD thing, you have to be going for the tourny win.
Rustys shoving range is quite wide here, down to KQ/KJ, which widens Madmoo a bit too.
If they held AK and AQ, you would still have the 45% you would hope for, 4 overcards only take you down to 33%.
Its the overpair that does the damage taking you right down to 20%.
Upside is winning it to have 54k, downside is you are left with 28k.
I may call, but would close my eyes !
Tell your mate he owes me a fiver.
Calling is bad imo.
either super tight players or soooooooooo wide
DTD is fantastic value )
40-45% is a tad optismistic
30-35% is about right
still calling with your stack in this MTT
essentially ignoring the first shove, and just ranging the iso shove
even if btns range is atc it will play ok v 55.
I prob fold and start opening every pot I can
This is a fold against Madmoo because her range doesnt include enough hands you beat
There is no way she reships pocket 4s for example
Just give YG a free entry to next weeks for £5.50, he got totally owned last night by me in the first one, he needs more practice
Also agree that if u get a table of regs in the dtd its redic and your calling range is just so narrow! There was an example last night where i had 13bbs on the cut off, and min raised with suited connectors. (r/f as all players are passive) i get min 3 otb by POKERTREV who also has 13bb. although if it fold rounds im getting 4/1 on my money, i KNOW hes got aces lol. Luckily, someone else before me got it in first, with KK, and yes trev showed AA.
I think its a clear fold. FWIW its almost certainly a snap call in a BH though.
Yes, all these hands i guess in range for open button shove v blinds with me just less than 6 bb's, especially now v madmoo who is pretty short too, but still has +12 bb and can just about hang on to push rather than call off.
As it stands I think the hand played out pretty standard once madmoo shows her strength with you still to act behind.
My read on madmoo, was fairly solid and wasn't gonna call off light rag ace etc (unlike Uzilover ,nicely stacked, gambling, , calling off pushes light)