Overpair on low board facing a shove- SPT SEMI

YOUNG_GUN

No solid reads, i havent played the opponent for a while.

There was a hand earlier he limped A8o and called a 25bb shove level 1 or 2.

Im betting flop for value, best flop for my hand other then setting up and i think he can call pretty wide here. Villain has been playing pretty loose passive.

is this a call or fold?

M4NTR4CKER	Small blind		25.00	25.00	5050.00
Doudeau	Big blind		50.00	75.00	1785.00
	Your hole cards	8 8
YOUNG_GUN	Raise		150.00	225.00	2420.00
xx	Call		150.00	375.00	2235.00
Outback81	Fold
M4NTR4CKER	Fold
Doudeau	Fold
Flop
		6 6 5
YOUNG_GUN	Bet		200.00	575.00	2220.00
x	All-in		2235.00	2810.00	0.00
Young_gun	??

Dudeskin8

I think you gotta call, most better pairs would 3bet and any 6x is tough to have.

L/C 25bb shove w/A8 shows his pretty crazy so could easily have overcards here.

YOUNG_GUN

No more input? 

Dude what are we beating? what range of hands would you put villain on? 

Dudeskin8

AK/AQ etc going crazy also 78 and a lone 5 overplayig it

NColley

lol, loose passives probably not doing this with too much you beat, he might overvalue 22/33/44/77/5x hands and maybe shove 78 (unlikely?).

Hands you losing too, AA-99/55/66, and he can prob have any 6x suited hands.

I think this being a sat/ combined with you labelling villian as a loose passive makes it more a fold then a call, although I dno.

Given villian a pretty wide range let me know what hands you think could be taken out/ any that could be added in.
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 144,540  games     0.057 secs     2,535,789  games/sec

Board: 6c 6d 5s
Dead: 

 equity  win  tie        pots won  pots tied 
Hand 0:  45.351%   44.93%  00.42%           64941        610.00   { 8d8h }
Hand 1:  54.649%   54.23%  00.42%           78379        610.00   { 22+, A6s-A5s, K6s-K5s, Q6s, J6s, T6s, 96s, 86s+, 76s, 62s+, 43s, A5o, K5o, 87o, 76o, 65o, 43o }

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YOUNG_GUN

Id take out QQ+ pairs

other then that about right

rolfus

Wow tough spot....you don't really lose to anything but you don't really beat anything, if that makes sense.

He may have called it off with A8o but he didn't shove which is the important thing when trying to break down his range. We don't have many reads at all which makes it tough.

In spots like this I find it's just a fold putting him on 77+ and 6x that got excited.

WHOAMI196

In Response to Re: Overpair on low board facing a shove- SPT SEMI:

lol, loose passives probably not doing this with too much you beat, he might overvalue 22/33/44/77/5x hands and maybe shove 78 (unlikely?). Hands you losing too, AA-99/55/66, and he can prob have any 6x suited hands. I think this being a sat/ combined with you labelling villian as a loose passive makes it more a fold then a call, although I dno. Given villian a pretty wide range let me know what hands you think could be taken out/ any that could be added in. ---  144,540  games     0.057 secs     2,535,789  games/sec Board: 6c 6d 5s Dead:   equity  win  tie        pots won  pots tied  Hand 0:  45.351%   44.93%  00.42%           64941        610.00   { 8d8h } Hand 1:  54.649%   54.23%  00.42%           78379        610.00   { 22+, A6s-A5s, K6s-K5s, Q6s, J6s, T6s, 96s, 86s+, 76s, 62s+, 43s, A5o, K5o, 87o, 76o, 65o, 43o } ---
Posted by NColley

remove a 6 from his range, i doubt this guy is shoving a 6, A5, 44, 33, 77 is the majority of his shoving range...unless i am wrong and he shoves a 6....A6, 67s, there's not a lot of 6x combos tbf 99 is prob top of his range...overall i think we are good here, still tough and cant blame a fold.

IDONKCALLU

im folding for the reason even if the villain does get it in with ak your at best 70/30 fav there are so many hands i think are beating u here i dont think villain has a 6 here he wouldnt shove i dont think it looks like 99s or even 10s do you really want to call extra 2k 2 be miles behind or a slight favourite ? 

YOUNG_GUN

In the moment i called, he shows 10s. 

At first i actually did think thats ul he has it there, but then looking back the next day its an awful call.

The only hands he shoves we beat is 78suited and A5 and overs, the main reason its a really bad call is not because he has 10s(results orientated) but because when he spewed before with A8 he was calling.

Generally a passive player isnt going to be shoving light here, i agree not very often with a 6 but his shoving range has got to be crushing ours. I should have waited for a better spot, hey we all do things which looking back is bad ...live n learn  

IDONKCALLU

called 9s or 10s pats hes back

rancid

Your only beating 7's, passives don't shove with non made hands - thats why their passive

loose aggro would shove a five, draw - loose passive just going to call down with any draw

beware "When passives go crazy"

don't beat yourself up, you had 8's

WHOAMI196

In Response to Re: Overpair on low board facing a shove- SPT SEMI:

In the moment i called, he shows 10s.  At first i actually did think thats ul he has it there, but then looking back the next day its an awful call. The only hands he shoves we beat is 78suited and A5 and overs, the main reason its a really bad call is not because he has 10s(results orientated) but because when he spewed before with A8 he was calling. Generally a passive player isnt going to be shoving light here, i agree not very often with a 6 but his shoving range has got to be crushing ours. I should have waited for a better spot, hey we all do things which looking back is bad ...live n learn  
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

UL younggun it was allways going to be a close one; suppose for that reason alone folding 88 is prob best.