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Diaries - where do you want them?

edited February 2012 in Poker Chat
Howdy folks,

With more and more diaries popping up in GPC, it's had me wondering if you'd prefer to have a dedicated section of the forum for them to go in, or if you rather have them in General Poker Chat?

Pros and cons of moving them (as I see it, anyway)

Pros: more people read them as GPC is definitely the busiest part of the forum. That means more people want to write them and that's not a bad thing (unless they're rubbish, which they're not!)
Cons: does it stop other GPC threads getting as much time on the front page as you'd like? Does it mean the GPC is too diary full?

I am literally undecided on this one, so what do you guys think?
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  • edited February 2012
    New section is required, GPC just getting bogged down with them and there a bit like marmite )


    mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • edited February 2012
  • edited February 2012
    Own section please.

    Then we can find the ones we follow easily.
  • edited February 2012
    New section with a comedy name :) 
  • edited February 2012
  • edited February 2012
    Perhaps a sub section of GPC if that is possible?
  • edited February 2012


    Can we not just stick all the low stakes ones in a section on their own?

    ...............Leave all 'golden ones' in GPC !!  

    New section please for Diaries.....Profiles (my name is, introduction posts etc).....and the return of 'IN THE WELL' !!! 


  • edited February 2012

    I think it would be a horrendous decision to move the Diaries to a seperate board.

    GPC needs pepping up - badly, VERY badly - & the Diaries COULD do that. They could, if managed well, completely freshen up & rejuvenate GPC.

    The current Vote is very much against my line of thinking, & I'll accept & respect whatever decision is made. Currently, I read every Diary, every day, but I doubt I'd do that if I had to change Boards, personally I just don't have time to peruse the other Boards.
  • edited February 2012
    It's going to happen eventually so might as well just move them now than leaving it hanging in the air. 
  • edited February 2012
    Keep them in GPC.

    Else GPC is simply DEAD
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    Keep them in GPC. Else GPC is simply DEAD
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    Agreed, also will give more exposure to the diary. If subsectioned, they could all just die a death!
  • edited February 2012
    personaly i think there are too many sub sections to plough through for my liking and only stick to a couple that interest me, so to make another one i reckon it would get lost like some of the others so i would say leave it as is. people like to see them updated on a regular basis and the GPC is the place i always vist first when i log on as im sure most do.

    but hey ho what ever the masses want!
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    personaly i think there are too many sub sections to plough through for my liking and only stick to a couple that interest me, so to make another one i reckon it would get lost like some of the others so i would say leave it as is. people like to see them updated on a regular basis and the GPC is the place i always vist first when i log on as im sure most do. but hey ho what ever the masses want!
    Posted by Dazler
    This, very much this.

    Regularly Updating them is the key, & if we had 6 or 8 Diaries on the go, regularly updated, GPC would spring back to life.

    It's the very nature of Forum Diaries that most drop by the wayside because of lack of regular updates, and they in turn get replaced by others.

    I made some, I hope, helpful hints & comments on Tommy's Diary this morning, follow these, keep them nice & fresh, & with an eclectic range of subjects, (not just poker, DEFFO not just poker) & they cannot fail.

    Good Posts by the Diary owner generate lots of interest & replies from readers, these then get respnded to, & the activity on GPC suddenly takes off.

    I keep an Online Diary elsewhere which has had 1950 posts since January 1st this year, & 38,000 views in the same period, & as most of you know, I'm not exactly Mr Interesting, other Diaries get far more, I imagine. Of those 1,950 Posts, I doubt 10% were by me - the rest were responses, & others debating topics, which I have raised.

    If we had 6 or 7 decent Diaries here all doing that, the whole tone, mood, & activity level of GPC would be uplifted. And it needs to be uplifted, badly. This is a Forum, not Customer Care, & it should reflect that, it was never intended to be the place where Customer Care conducted their business. 
     
    Forums are what WE make them. Nobody can point fingers, Forums get the readership their Members deserve. I think we deserve better, & it is in our own hands to make it better.

    As to whether Diaries stay on GPC, or have their own board, that's Blandy's shout, & I won't argue, but there's no chance I'll be navigating inter-board any time soon, I just don't have the time. I'm quite sure the Diaries will manage vey nicely without my input!
  • edited February 2012
    I voted yes but changed my mind now, lol.
  • edited February 2012
    Turn the question on it's head.  What else is in GPC recently?

    There are some good non diary GPC threads but sadly they are getting fewer and fewer.  Never is there a more blatant example of how losing fabulous thread starters can damage a forum.  (Irish Rover, we miss you).  GPC needs something to get it going, diaries seem to have a chance of doing this.  While it is chock full at the moment as starting a diary is en vogue this will thin out over time as people lose interest in updating regularly.

    Also, breaking all forum convention and encouraging people to click 'Page 2' isn't a bad thing.
  • edited February 2012
    I suggested a new section for this a while back and it got shot down, so obvs keep here.

    amazing a sky member asks this question and will get more replies than my ORIGINAL THREAD.

    so sky dave i`m still taking credit, lol

    edit: my thread also got moved too community suggestions, i take it yours won`t ?? he-he
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    Turn the question on it's head.  What else is in GPC recently? There are some good non diary GPC threads but sadly they are getting fewer and fewer.  Never is there a more blatant example of how losing fabulous thread starters can damage a forum.  (Irish Rover, we miss you).  GPC needs something to get it going, diaries seem to have a chance of doing this.  While it is chock full at the moment as starting a diary is en vogue this will thin out over time as people lose interest in updating regularly. Also, breaking all forum convention and encouraging people to click 'Page 2' isn't a bad thing.
    Posted by TommyD
    Precisely - it is the sign of a healthy Forum when stuff drops off Page 1 quickly.
  • edited February 2012
    I love a good conversation.... keep the comments coming folks.
  • edited February 2012
    I suggested yes earlier but now agree leave in GPC 
  • edited February 2012

    So TWO folks have changed their mind now?
  • edited February 2012
    Doesn't really matter, if people want to read them they will find them. 

    Voted for a section of their own, it's not a big effort is it to click a sub heading. 

    There are at least 4 forum sections that can be done away with to make way. 
  • edited February 2012
    But if you follow that logic, why do we have a Poker Clinic section ? Surely the answer is that so people who are interested in it can go straight to it ?

    The same applies to diaries. If they are good to read, which many of them are, we will make that extra click and be able to go straight to the ones we want to view.

    I think splitting them will actually encourage more of us to start them, while making GPC easier to follow too.
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    So TWO folks have changed their mind now?
    Posted by Tikay10

    Nothing like a good bit of discourse eh, Tikay? :)
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    Doesn't really matter, if people want to read them they will find them.  Voted for a section of their own, it's not a big effort is it to click a sub heading.  There are at least 4 forum sections that can be done away with to make way. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Disagree JJ, it does matter.  The diary fad is not only creating new contributors to the forum but getting old ones re-engaged as well.  This is only good for GPC.  Also the reason that those sections could be done away with is because people don't go in them because they are not GPC.

    I reiterate, at least 50% of recent non-diary threads in GPC have been 'Where's my C4P?' 'Sort it out Sky' 'I'm Leaving' 'Fixed Site' 'Bad Beat Yawn.'  GPC needs fixing, the diaries might do that.
  • edited February 2012


    I actually agree with JJ on this one! 

    One click to the 'diary section' should not be that much of an effort for anyone surely?

    The 'team' stuff clogging up GPC rattled some peoples cages but a new section alleviated that, did it not?

    I also agree that more people will start Diaries if they are in their own section. Mine will be titled Diary of a stresshead!

    It is horses for courses.
  • edited February 2012
    Or change the forum software to display 30 threads per page? Would allow more on page 1..
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    But if you follow that logic, why do we have a Poker Clinic section ? Surely the answer is that so people who are interested in it can go straight to it ? The same applies to diaries. If they are good to read, which many of them are, we will make that extra click and be able to go straight to the ones we want to view. I think splitting them will actually encourage more of us to start them, while making GPC easier to follow too.
    Posted by penguin7
    It's not hard following tumbleweed.
  • edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Diaries - where do you want them?:
    Or change the forum software to display 30 threads per page? Would allow more on page 1..
    Posted by scotty77
    At present - this may change - there are techie reasons why that would currently be inadvisable.

    In short, the loading time would become unacceptably slow. er. 

    Like many, I have invested a lot of time & energy into this Forum, but it's now entered a sort of stupor, for the reasons Tommy explained.

    I would bet my mortgage on being able to increase the Post Count by 50% within a month by some subtle changes, encouraging better quality Threads, & diaries fill that bill. That would result in more active Members, more content, & more more. It's simple.

    PS - I don't have a mortgage. ALL   BETS  ARE OFF.



  • edited February 2012
    I enjoy reading a well thought out diary and take a great deal from the thoughts and comments posted!
    But to be honest some players seem to post them just to appear on the forum.
    In my opinion I would like to see a diary template.
    Threads would be consistant and results could be compared easier to pick up best practices. 
  • edited February 2012
    The current Vote is very much against my line of thinking, & I'll accept & respect whatever decision is made. Currently, I read every Diary, every day, but I doubt I'd do that if I had to change Boards, personally I just don't have time to peruse the other Boards.

    Come on Tikay, is this fair debating tactics ? We all appreciate just how busy you are, but threatening not to read diaries if they are put in their own section is going a bit far as a means of swaying opinion to meet yours.

    You know that your contributions to any thread are welcomed and sought after by forum members. And if you are really saying that you would not make an extra click to read something as interesting as TommyDs diary, I have to say I do not believe you.

    There are around a dozen active diary threads at the moment and I will continue to follow them wherever they are. As Tommy rightly says we do get too many pointless threads started on GPC, but filling the front page with diaries is not going to make them disappear. And there are still many worthwhile non diary threads on GPC.

    Not an issue to fall out over though. I just wish my poker (and my life in general) at the moment was a little more interesting, so I could start my own diary thread !
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