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I hope you are well, & running good.
There seems to be an incredible disconnent in understanding how antes work, & why they are, or are not, used.
I have explained this several times, or tried to.
I think antes are great, & serve a particular purpose in Tourneys where the structure supports them.
However, there are very few Tourneys on Sky Poker where there would be a credible logic for having them - I would estimate that less than 1% (1 in 100) are suitable for Antes.
Antes in the vast majority of existing Tourneys on Sky Poker would render them completely unplayable.
Antes will arrive here in due course, & will be applied to those Tourneys where they serve the function for which they are designed - to rev up the action & reward aggression at the sharp end.
A typical Thursdsay night BH Main Event loses 70% of the field in Hour One. That is plenty quick enough.
One rather rude gentleman, an "ante-lover", who posts on here a lot buy plays all his poker elsewhere, sent me an abusive FB message yesterday about antes on Sky Poker, or the lack of them. He insisted that all decent Tourneys should have Antes in from Level One. Which is odd, because I doubt any tourney, on any site, live or online, anywhere in the world, has had antes at the beginning. Antes do not work like that, ever. I'm not entirely how I can argue with, or reply, to his logic.
Any regular MTT player appreciates antes - but only where appropriate. In due course, antes will be here on Sky Poker, & will be applied to the Tournaments where they would serve a useful function, & add positively to the customer experience.
Run two Tourneys alongside each other on Sky Poker, at exactly the same time - a £30 BH, & a £30 Roller. Which would get most runners? I suggest the BH would get 10 times as many runners.
I do agree that antes would be useful in Rollers, & stuff like VLV Finals, no doubt at all. But it has to be kept in its proper perspective. They will come.
Endless hours patiently trying to explain stuff, & all that got noted is a surplus apostrophe.....marv.
Still, its all good fun, eh?
great job by all at glasgow, you were almost not missed!!!!
oh, and i believe congrats are also due to you for a success................................???
143rd birthday?? you kept that quiet.
how can u put antes in the norm tournys, do u want them in the 15 min timed aswell..
cant waint to see you at an spt. ohh sorry, u dont play live(for some only)...
they have antes in these tournys, u shud try going out once in a while and playing cards..
i do believe that the antes wud be good in some tournys but deffo not all..
i have yet to play in a tournys on many sites that has antes from the start and it norm doesn t come in until after the first hour atleast..
as half of the field in most tournys on sky are out by the first hour.. why would you need antes..
apart from maybe the roller and the ukops and the final for the vegas. but once u have one final for the vegas without antes , u cant really change it..
yes i am the moaner from 51.. but the structure of most tournys is good , and a few ... ONLY A FEW.. need tweeking..
keep up the good work sky..
antes in cash. ROTFLMAO. thats called a raise.. wot ante u going to put on a 2-4 table. 1 p each player.. so u r basically saying that every flop will be seen by everyone..
In the grand scheme of things, in comparison to some major tournaments, virtually every tournament on Sky has a pretty fast structure that (as Tikay said) would mean adding antes would make them unplayable/a crapshoot.
how long before the antes kick in. in all tournys i play on other sites. and yes dohhhhh, i dont only play sky...
they have ante, but only after so long of play, even in stt aswell. but these go on far longer than skys tournys and stt do..
p.s. i am a winning player on all my sites ... OHHH and live i am a winning player... cant wait for the spt in blackpool as deffo going there , maybe even cardiff..
well said Graham, for all the banter aside, and OTT a bit sometimes, we have to remember how lucky we are having Tikay
*i accept no responsibilty for saying this
This would speed up tourneys and you're always gonna get some people for and some against. Why not just take one of the regular tourneys (not a televised one cos it would be awkward), exactly same structure (and same kickoff time) as normal but one has antes, one doesn't, publicise it well on the forum so people know the options and let people vote with their feet. Halve the guarantees if needbe for that one night so you aint guaranteeing any more than normal.
P.S. I don't see how it is at all relevant whether you're a winning player on any sites, live or online, it should have no impact on a player of the game having an opinion.
i personally think the thursday night bh has a bad structure.. but that might only be me..
antes can be a good thing..
i have played in tournys where the ante comes in at 100bb, then again played in some where it doesnt come in until 500bb..
i play on another well known site in their tournys daily during the day and even with antes they last 6 hours and more
n Response to Re: Sky Poker Software, & "IT":
I think the idea of this Thread - to keep everyone appraised of what has happened, is happening, & will happen, with the Site, & the Software, was rather useful myself, not many Online Poker Sites can or would do such as thing.
The thread, however, has become fixated with one tiny detail, & one that will be resolved in due course, antes.
Really guys, the site as a whole, & all the changes being made, is a bit wider than one single, detail, & I had hoped pretty exciting, & interesting, too.
If all you wish to discuss is antes, fine, go ahead, but I'm a bit surprised that antes are the sum total of your interest in a very wide-ranging suject.
I hear you, we hear you, the answers have been given several times in the thread - they WILL come, but are not top of the list of priorities - but I would have thought that the new Client, resizeable tables, auto top up, preferred seating, tiling, & much much more, might have been more useful to discuss.
In a very odd piece of self-linking, the opening 5 or 6 posts on this Thread explained, at some length, a much wider range of discussion topics, perhaps we can get back to that soon? It is HERE
Omaha will ALWAYS be very much a minority game in poker, be it here, or anywhere else.
If - hypothetically - Omaha is the game of choice for, say, 5% of the poker population, it makes no logic or sense to apportion too much of the promotional resource on it. We cannot ignore the other 95%.
Keep up the good work