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sutited cards

rmarshall1rmarshall1
edited March 2012 in Poker Chat
y when i have sutited cards 9 times out of 10 not 1 ot that sutite comes out and i get beat by another flush???
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk
    edited March 2012
    Dunno.
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  • rmarshall1rmarshall1
    edited March 2012

    i ant long put this up and im in a tourny and iv had nothin but sutited cards

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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    irt does happen very regulary, 4 suits only

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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    irt does happen very regulary, 4 suits only
    Posted by pod1
    Ayop mate, wana play now?
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  • jugglegeekjugglegeek
    edited March 2012
    having your two hole cards being of the same suit makes very little difference to your chances of having the best hand by the river. Usually increase your equity by about 2-3% eg AA vs T9o is 82% vs 18% while AA vs T9s increases to 23% and that is the most extreem example. The chances of flopping a flush are extreemly remote and a monochrome flop (all three cards the same suit) will often kill the action anyway.

    Don't worry too much about having suited hole cards. It doesn't make a massive amount of difference
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE
    edited March 2012
    sooted cards are awesome
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    having your two hole cards being of the same suit makes very little difference to your chances of having the best hand by the river. Usually increase your equity by about 2-3% eg AA vs T9o is 82% vs 18% while AA vs T9s increases to 23% and that is the most extreem example. The chances of flopping a flush are extreemly remote and a monochrome flop (all three cards the same suit) will often kill the action anyway. Don't worry too much about having suited hole cards. It doesn't make a massive amount of difference
    Posted by jugglegeek
    Pardon? lol what are the odds on this?
    sootums Small blind  25.00 25.00 1378.75
    waller02 Big blind  50.00 75.00 3041.25
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 7
    		   
    jakeyboy3 Call  50.00 125.00 3005.00
    JohnPe15 Call  50.00 175.00 1920.00
    DUMBOY Call  50.00 225.00 4565.00
    TopMan12 Fold     
    sootums Call  25.00 250.00 1353.75
    waller02 Check     
    Flop
      
    • 6
    • 5
    • 2
    		   
    sootums Check     
    waller02 Bet  100.00 350.00 2941.25
    jakeyboy3 Call  100.00 450.00 2905.00
    JohnPe15 Fold     
    DUMBOY Call  100.00 550.00 4465.00
    sootums Fold     
    Turn
      
    • 10
    		   
    waller02 Bet  350.00 900.00 2591.25
    jakeyboy3 Call  350.00 1250.00 2555.00
    DUMBOY Raise  700.00 1950.00 3765.00
    waller02 Raise  1500.00 3450.00 1091.25
    jakeyboy3 All-in  2555.00 6005.00 0.00
    DUMBOY All-in  3765.00 9770.00 0.00
    waller02 All-in  1091.25 10861.25 0.00
    DUMBOY Unmatched bet  1523.75 9337.50 1523.75
    waller02 Show
    • Q
    • 7
    		   
    jakeyboy3 Show
    • A
    • 10
    		   
    DUMBOY Show
    • 8
    • K
    		   
    River
      
    • 3
    		   
    jakeyboy3 Win Flush to the Ace 9265.00  9265.00
    DUMBOY Win Flush to the King 72.50
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  • Red_KingRed_King
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    In Response to Re: sutited cards : Pardon? lol what are the odds on this? sootums Small blind   25.00 25.00 1378.75 waller02 Big blind   50.00 75.00 3041.25   Your hole cards Q 7       jakeyboy3 Call   50.00 125.00 3005.00 JohnPe15 Call   50.00 175.00 1920.00 DUMBOY Call   50.00 225.00 4565.00 TopMan12 Fold         sootums Call   25.00 250.00 1353.75 waller02 Check         Flop     6 5 2       sootums Check         waller02 Bet   100.00 350.00 2941.25 jakeyboy3 Call   100.00 450.00 2905.00 JohnPe15 Fold         DUMBOY Call   100.00 550.00 4465.00 sootums Fold         Turn     10       waller02 Bet   350.00 900.00 2591.25 jakeyboy3 Call   350.00 1250.00 2555.00 DUMBOY Raise   700.00 1950.00 3765.00 waller02 Raise   1500.00 3450.00 1091.25 jakeyboy3 All-in   2555.00 6005.00 0.00 DUMBOY All-in   3765.00 9770.00 0.00 waller02 All-in   1091.25 10861.25 0.00 DUMBOY Unmatched bet   1523.75 9337.50 1523.75 waller02 Show Q 7       jakeyboy3 Show A 10       DUMBOY Show 8 K       River     3       jakeyboy3 Win Flush to the Ace 9265.00   9265.00 DUMBOY Win Flush to the King 72.50
    Posted by waller02
    It's called a Random Number Generator, LOL
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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    sorry jinglema, missed your post, had evening with wife last night and had night off poker! this afternoon will be good.
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    sorry jinglema, missed your post, had evening with wife last night and had night off poker! this afternoon will be good.
    Posted by pod1
    Haha! this afternoon will be good? As opposed to spending an entire evening with your wife without poker? LOL
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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    read it as you will!!!!!  lol
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner
    edited March 2012
    Well I don't have any silly wife to distract me from poker. The clue's in the name. ;)

    The reason to play suited connectors isn't that they'll hit a flush frequently, it's that they'll frequently hit some sort of draw - flushing or straightening - that will allow us to play flops aggressively, with some outs to back us up... They can also make us two-pair type hands when our opponents have straight draw hands or higher-pairs and in these circumstances we can get good value from our opponents by playing our hand aggressively. That's the difference between suited connectors and two non-connecting, random suited cards. 

    78 suited = A reasonable starting hand (depending on circumstances)
    A2 suited = Not a reasonable starting hand (unless very short handed)
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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    but i like ace 2 sooooted !!!
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited March 2012
    At least you have the best way of spelling suited (sutited)  i have seen , good work, would love to here how you say it .
     Oh and i hit my flush every time i have suited cards so it must just be a conspiracy against you.
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    At least you have the best way of spelling suited (sutited)  i have seen , good work, would love to here how you say it .  Oh and i hit my flush every time i have suited cards so it must just be a conspiracy against you.
    Posted by jonjo75
    nice bloke
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    Well I don't have any silly wife to distract me from poker. The clue's in the name. ;) The reason to play suited connectors isn't that they'll hit a flush frequently, it's that they'll frequently hit some sort of draw - flushing or straightening - that will allow us to play flops aggressively, with some outs to back us up... They can also make us two-pair type hands when our opponents have straight draw hands or higher-pairs and in these circumstances we can get good value from our opponents by playing our hand aggressively. That's the difference between suited connectors and two non-connecting, random suited cards.  78 suited = A reasonable starting hand (depending on circumstances) A2 suited = Not a reasonable starting hand (unless very short handed)
    Posted by BorinLoner
    I can think of at least two major flaaws in this logic.

    In hindsight am sure you'll see them also.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner
    edited March 2012
    Just trying to make the point that aggression is good, it's easier to be aggressive on the flop with hands that have some value and suited-connectors are more likely to have value on the flop than non-connecting, suited cards.
    It's not an attempt at in-depth analysis of suited connectors. I could never do that in fewer than a thousand words... I mean really... lol
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    In Response to Re: sutited cards : nice bloke
    Posted by waller02
    Good point well made!
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    At least you have the best way of spelling suited (sutited)  i have seen , good work, would love to here how you say it .  Oh and i hit my flush every time i have suited cards so it must just be a conspiracy against you.
    Posted by jonjo75
    well it just makes me laugh when you have a dig at the guys spelling, no need for it, i take your mistake with the word hear is deliberate????   
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  • jonjo75jonjo75
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    In Response to Re: sutited cards : well it just makes me laugh when you have a dig at the guys spelling, no need for it, i take your mistake with the word hear is deliberate????   
    Posted by waller02
    Not just a dig at his spelling but the whole post, it is basically saying everybody wins except me , why me ?
    We all get beat , go on a run where nothing hits but to put on a post saying everyone else's flush always gets there but mine never does is annoying and a bit childish.
    But you might be right ," He without sin cast the first stone and all that ", so i shall go to church and ask for forgiveness.
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  • waller02waller02
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    In Response to Re: sutited cards : Not just a dig at his spelling but the whole post, it is basically saying everybody wins except me , why me ? We all get beat , go on a run where nothing hits but to put on a post saying everyone else's flush always gets there but mine never does is annoying and a bit childish. But you might be right ," He without sin cast the first stone and all that ", so i shall go to church and ask for forgiveness.
    Posted by jonjo75
    I forgive you my son
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: sutited cards:
    but i like ace 2 sooooted !!!
    Posted by pod1
    do you like suited pairs pod :)
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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    lovem :-)
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited March 2012

    they always say that suitedness is only worth an extra 1.5%

    But in my head its an extra 15%

    Can this explain why i am such a fish?

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  • pod1pod1
    edited March 2012
    yes greg it is

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