SPT Glasgow

jlj17

This is a very small point but at the Alea, tables upstairs there was no clock at the SPT just for future ref,any comments,

Eyeman

In fairness, after the first level (no 2 minute warning) it seemed ok. Not ideal.

SPT

there wasn't even meant to be an upstairs area!

So, point taken, but the lack of clock was the least of my problems!

jlj17

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

In fairness, after the first level (no 2 minute warning) it seemed ok. Not ideal.
Posted by Eyeman

In fairness not hard to rig a clock up!!

SolarCarro

I think the Alea in Glasgow let themselves down in a number of areas, 2 years ago they crammed us all into the downstairs area and then moved the whole tournament upstairs!! This time splitting the tournament between two levels was just plain silly

No Clock

Using Standard Alea chips! - I play at Alea every week with these chips, what is to say I couldn't have added some at some point!

Before anybody asks when would it have been possible for me to do this?

When my upstairs table was broken I was sent down to my new table, not escorted, just stroll down and find new table, could have gone via toilet, outside smoking areas, could have popped out to my car in the car park, nobody would have been any the wiser! It states in tournament rules that when moving tables your chips must be visible at all times, so no putting in pockets etc, Alea tournament staff failed to ensure this.

I'm not suggesting anybody in a SPT event would do this but it's just not a way to run a major sponsors tournament.

Lights - It would be nice to be able to see without straining eyes!

Size of Tables upstairs - The tables were tiny

All really little things, i feel the Alea could improve so much if they concentrated on attention to detail!

Dave

jlj17

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

I think the Alea in Glasgow let themselves down in a number of areas, 2 years ago they crammed us all into the downstairs area and then moved the whole tournament upstairs!! This time splitting the tournament between two levels was just plain silly No Clock Using Standard Alea chips! - I play at Alea every week with these chips, what is to say I couldn't have added some at some point! Before anybody asks when would it have been possible for me to do this? When my upstairs table was broken I was sent down to my new table, not escorted, just stroll down and find new table, could have gone via toilet, outside smoking areas, could have popped out to my car in the car park, nobody would have been any the wiser! It states in tournament rules that when moving tables your chips must be visible at all times, so no putting in pockets etc, Alea tournament staff failed to ensure this. I'm not suggesting anybody in a SPT event would do this but it's just not a way to run a major sponsors tournament. Lights - It would be nice to be able to see without straining eyes! Size of Tables upstairs - The tables were tiny All really little things, i feel the Alea could improve so much if they concentrated on attention to detail! Dave
Posted by SolarCarro

Dave thanks not just me then it just let the whole w.end down. Mind Glasgow first visit but def not the last .

rosjim1

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

I think the Alea in Glasgow let themselves down in a number of areas, 2 years ago they crammed us all into the downstairs area and then moved the whole tournament upstairs!! This time splitting the tournament between two levels was just plain silly No Clock Using Standard Alea chips! - I play at Alea every week with these chips, what is to say I couldn't have added some at some point! Before anybody asks when would it have been possible for me to do this? When my upstairs table was broken I was sent down to my new table, not escorted, just stroll down and find new table, could have gone via toilet, outside smoking areas, could have popped out to my car in the car park, nobody would have been any the wiser! It states in tournament rules that when moving tables your chips must be visible at all times, so no putting in pockets etc, Alea tournament staff failed to ensure this. I'm not suggesting anybody in a SPT event would do this but it's just not a way to run a major sponsors tournament. Lights - It would be nice to be able to see without straining eyes! Size of Tables upstairs - The tables were tiny All really little things, i feel the Alea could improve so much if they concentrated on attention to detail! Dave
Posted by SolarCarro

you are spot on dave they didnt do them selves any favors at all i was at the back table with no lighting a number of times i had to stand to see the cards in the 1st 2 lvls while my eyes ajusted another thing they did wrong was they listed a 1/1 cash table this was clealry stated 1/1 and i cleared this up with the card room manager all 9 players sat down bought their chips then as first hand was dealt were told we were playing 1/2 and that was that..

maccol

In fairness to Tighty and co. I think they are having to work with the best of a bad bunch as regards pokering casinos in Central Scotland.
Gala casinos in Glasgow and Edinburgh either dont have the capacity or ability to successfully host one of these events.(Maybury pies anyone?) and the Mint in Glasgow has access issues.
Genting Fountainpark probably could make a decent job of it but, for reasons which currently escape me, they are not interested.
This would then leave the two Grosvenor casinos in Aberdeen and Dundee but they both pose additional travelling issues.
All in all it is not an easy one to solve.

SPT

I am aware of the issues, and a few more not mentioned!

Maccol is correct. Running third party events in Scotland is not easy, at all.


One issue I disagree with is chips. Most SPT events run with the venue's regulation chips, often used across a number of casinos in that group

The only way to solve the faint risk that someone from Leeds may care so much as to put chips in his pocket and put them in the glasgow event, for example, is to have our own Sky Poker chips. This is an option for the future but is an extra cost both in purchase and transporting.

SolarCarro

They are minor issues

This is in no way a criticism of Sky Poker or Tighty, they are all things the casino should be enforcing

They should have escorted players moving tables

Could venues (multi million pound casino chains) not have special tour chips?

Dave

jlj17

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

They are minor issues This is in no way a criticism of Sky Poker or Tighty, they are all things the casino should be enforcing They should have escorted players moving tables Could venues (multi million pound casino chains) not have special tour chips? Dave
Posted by SolarCarro

Again Dave 2nd all you say hope i haven,t stirred things up by starting this again this was not a go at the Sky team. Leonard

AK57

This might be an old subject but what is the view on phones at the tables? checking twitter today it is obvious players at the same table were tweeting at glasgow .I must stress this appeared not to be during a hand but if the rule "show one show all " exists then so should " tell one tell all " . Surely phones should be banned at the tables? I'm sure Aspers for the Newcastle SPT didnt allow this ?
Maybe Im showing my age !
Thanks to all at Sky Poker for a great day looking forward to the next one! 

EvilPingu

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

This might be an old subject but what is the view on phones at the tables? checking twitter today it is obvious players at the same table were tweeting at glasgow .I must stress this appeared not to be during a hand but if the rule "show one show all " exists then so should " tell one tell all " . Surely phones should be banned at the tables? I'm sure Aspers for the Newcastle SPT didnt allow this ? Maybe Im showing my age ! Thanks to all at Sky Poker for a great day looking forward to the next one! 
Posted by AK57

Can definitely understand where you're coming from with this - If someone posts "Just folded QQ to a 4 bet" on Twitter, half the table have twitter and see that tweet, and the others don't, that's the same as showing to some people and not others at the table. It'd be impossible to enforce what people can and can't post on Twitter during Poker tournaments, so I think that banning it altogether, while it may be unpopular and "punish" people who aren't doing anything wrong, wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Eyeman

Phones were used at the table in Newcatle - regular text updates to 'er indoors. I think it's dodgy, but until they make a stand, nothing will happen.

The lighting at a couple of the tables was dreadful, that's true. Beyond that, I think it was OK, but then I would.

SolarCarro

I was on 5 different tables

I was allowed to tweet from 4 of them, I was told not to by a female dealer at 1 of them

There was no consistency between tables

I don't tweet hand details, if phones can be used for music players why can't they be used for Twitter, games etc?

Its a funny subject that will only get worse with ipads etc

indieben

Personally thought it was a decent tourney. One guy was even watching a film on an iPad and playing hands. thought that was ridiculous. The only thing i was disappointed about was the fact I got papped upstairs and out the road of the cameras!

maccol

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

Personally thought it was a decent tourney. One guy was even watching a film on an iPad and playing hands. thought that was ridiculous. The only thing i was disappointed about was the fact I got papped upstairs and out the road of the cameras!
Posted by indieben

 Yeah,I believe this was done on a marks out of 10 scoring system.   

clanfan86

I have to say i really enjoyed SPT Glasgow, was a good laugh in spite of becoming Jockbmw's nemesis! (knocked out jock himself and then a player he had 10% of, oops) I think the people in and around the tour from the people that run it to the people that take part are excellent and really friendly too. Anyway looking forward to Blackpool as it's the next one i can make.

lcfcfan14

I have to say that on the whole Glasgow seemed to go ok although as I was only railing I can't comment on on most of the issues.

The only problem I witnessed first hand was trying to get sit n gos running.

In the beginning myself and Scouse_red enquired about a £10 SnG, we were told by a casino official that we were next only to then be "gazumped" by a £20 one!

We had to wait ages to play anything as although there were several empty tables we were told, and I'm not joking here, there was only 1 set of chips!!

When we did eventually get going we got down to about 5 handed when a different official came over to tell us that the casino manager had asked that we "wrap it up" and end the SnGs, this was approx midnight.

We tried to explain that the SnGs don't usually get going till after the Main Event has finished but the manager was having none of it, so after finishing our 1 and only £10 game we had to stop.

Not the best example of customer service IMO!

BobaFett11

Whats with the horrendous structure?  Ive played better structured £5 turbos

Bonamassa

In Response to Re: SPT Glasgow:

Whats with the horrendous structure?  Ive played better structured £5 turbos
Posted by BobaFett11

I have to agree Boba, after levels 3/4 it almost became a shovefest.

SPT

it is a one day comp that has to clear 145 players to a winner in about 12 hours total

It has a 30 minute clock and all the major levels. Last year I added in 200-400 ra 25 after 200-400 too

It's as good a structure as I can get, given the brief

Yes for it to play well you need a double up in the early levels

I disagree with it being a worse structure than local rebuy turbos. Having a lot of experience of local comps, they play shallow too

Eyeman

The Friday night was a 40,000 turbo - imho, it had far less play than the 5,000 structure the next day.