Would you call this river bet

Spikelad

Shove river, don't check.

Spikelad

I had been playing on this table for a while and the guy who went to the river with me had been playing a solid game he was three betting in position quite a bit but was not calling out of position.When he went to showdown he always had a decent hand so when he called my bet i knew he had some sort of hand to see a flop with.

My raise preflop was a bit on the low side but to be honest whenever i did raise people were just folding and i did not want to scare everybody away.When he bet the river i really was not sure where i was in the hand,any thoughts welcome.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceSpikelad Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £5.02 Ty789 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.92  Your hole cards K K    XXXX Call  £0.04 £0.10 £5.90 Edinburgh Fold     Daz27nufc Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.63 Spikelad Raise  £0.24 £0.38 £4.78 Ty789 Fold     XXXX Call  £0.22 £0.60 £5.68 Daz27nufc Fold     Flop  8 7 J    Spikelad Bet  £0.45 £1.05 £4.33 XXXX Call  £0.45 £1.50 £5.23 Turn  8    Spikelad Bet  £1.13 £2.63 £3.20 XXXX Call  £1.13 £3.76 £4.10 River  6    Spikelad Check     XXXX Bet  £1.88

Spikelad

Thanks for the reply Dudeskin what i was thinking was if i shove the river i am only going to get called by a set or a flush,i find that i get myself in this situation quite a bit where i am not really sure where i am in the hand.

I like your direct approach to the river decision,thanks again for the feedback.

Dudeskin8

Looking back at the hand the guy limp/calls a fairly large raise OOP which doesn't seem super solid as you describe. 

I haven't played cash for a while but the only hand I'd consider that with would be small pairs that have good implied odds if they hit, I would personally never do it with suited conectors that on this particular board play quite well as it'll be a leak longterm plus it's how fish play lol so if he has those types he isn't good just lucky.

Other hands that like this board are AJ/KJ/QJ/J10, I'd presume he'd raise AJ/KJ and fold other two, so limping inrules them out imo.

Against a decent player the only hand they could possibly have is 77 but I would still personally raise that pre.

I appreciate you have reads but for me this just feels like a TP hand stationing off all streets and with paired board your hand gains even more value, only thing to worry about is flush but that's only part of his range. 

grantorino

jam river

thebil123

Check call river, what r u beating? flush straight trips.

3barrels

i never check this river i go for max value if he got there its just unlucky but defoo try get it all on river deffo never checking

Spikelad

Spikelad	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.02
Ty789	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.92
	Your hole cards	K K
XXXX	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£5.90
Edinburgh	Fold
Daz27nufc	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£1.63
Spikelad	Raise		£0.24	£0.38	£4.78
Ty789	Fold
XXXX	Call		£0.22	£0.60	£5.68
Daz27nufc	Fold
Flop
		8 7 J
Spikelad	Bet		£0.45	£1.05	£4.33
XXXX	Call		£0.45	£1.50	£5.23
Turn
		8
Spikelad	Bet		£1.13	£2.63	£3.20
XXXX	Call		£1.13	£3.76	£4.10
River
		6
Spikelad	Check
XXXX	Bet		£1.88	£5.64	£2.22
Spikelad	Call		£1.88	£7.52	£1.32
XXXX	Show	Q Q
Spikelad	Show	K K
Spikelad	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 8s	£6.95		£8.27

Spikelad

Thanks for the feedback on the above hand guys,i posted it to try to learn a bit about the mindset of other players as to be honest i really struggle with cash at the moment.

Dudeskin8

Yep lost ya self £1.32 here which is criminal at NL4 or any cash level for that matter.