50NL. You've flopped a straight - do you call villain's enormous all in?

Die_hard

Was a mastercash table, playing pretty deep. Oppo seems okish, nothing special by any means but wasn't losing. Check/calls with Ace high on flop the few I saw, rarely if ever folded to a cbet. Notes on him from a while ago that he can't fold anything, however don't think I've played him for ages until last couple of nights when he's played as said here.

Don't think I saw him donk bet once and hadn't gone all in like this once either until now. Has he got QK? Are you calling?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
KCL31	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£29.49
CrazyBen23	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£99.50
	Your hole cards	8 Q
WATERTAXI	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£190.31
gerrard9	Fold
Die_hard	Raise		£2.50	£3.75	£201.27
SJspanky1	Fold
KCL31	Fold
CrazyBen23	Fold
WATERTAXI	Call		£2.00	£5.75	£188.31
Flop
		J 10 9
WATERTAXI	Bet		£5.75	£11.50	£182.56
Die_hard	Raise		£13.00	£24.50	£188.27
WATERTAXI	All-in		£182.56	£207.06	£0.00
Die_hard

Should probably have reraised his flop bet more but that's besides the point here now lol.

nmipeis

call

GREGHOGG

our hand cant improve (barring runner runner flush), his probably can (say he has 10J, or a set........... AKd also possible....

But folding the 2nd nuts? even with a massive overbet? No way. I snap this, and sigh when he turns over kq lol.

too many hands you are beating to fold imo, just gotta dodge a full house imo.

murray69

Here's a hand from a couple of days ago in a 25k sat, against the same guy, he was playing any 2, i wouldnt be suprised if he had 4 8 offsuit on that board lol

murray69 Small blind  75.00 75.00 1832.50 bungle72 Big blind  150.00 225.00 1345.00  Your hole cards A 6    andyjwat Fold     WATERTAXI Raise  450.00 675.00 1625.00 slamdunky Fold     murray69 All-in  1832.50 2507.50 0.00 bungle72 Fold     WATERTAXI Call  1457.50 3965.00 167.50 murray69 Show A 6    WATERTAXI Show 2 10    Flop  Q 8 9    Turn  K    River  J    WATERTAXI Win Straight to the King 3965.00  4132.50

Dudeskin8

He just open limp/calls pre OOP so I'd think KQ is unlikely unless of course he limp/calls 100% of his range lol

It's still tough though calling a 330bb shove but with pre flop play you gotta call imo.

scotty77

you have played this villain before, yes?

snap call.

EvilPingu

I snap call against this player. If he's got KQ then GL to him.

grantorino

call

rancid

snap dat - & dodge a bunch - probs

SJspanky1

I was there so not going to ruin the climax to the hand, I'll leave that to Die_Hard.

Here's a hand I just played against same villain though. Think a lot of you have seen this fella play before based on the snap call comments....

scotty77	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£48.50
jackl	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£48.98
	Your hole cards	J A
WATERTAXI	Raise		£2.00	£2.75	£54.71
Jibbz	Fold
palavo_oko	Call		£2.00	£4.75	£43.62
SJspanky1	Call		£2.00	£6.75	£66.72
scotty77	Fold
jackl	Fold
Flop
		A 3 8
WATERTAXI	Bet		£5.06	£11.81	£49.65
palavo_oko	Fold
SJspanky1	Call		£5.06	£16.87	£61.66
Turn
		K
WATERTAXI	Bet		£12.65	£29.52	£37.00
SJspanky1	Call		£12.65	£42.17	£49.01
River
		10
WATERTAXI	All-in		£37.00	£79.17	£0.00
SJspanky1	Call		£37.00	£116.17	£12.01
WATERTAXI	Show	6 3
SJspanky1	Show	J A
SJspanky1	Win	Pair of Aces	£114.37		£126.38

pryce6

fwiw I don't think other people should be posting hands from the villain.

I take it this thread is only in existence because you lost the hand..? If you ever fold then it's time to give up the game.

beaneh

In Response to 50NL. You've flopped a straight - do you call villain's enormous all in?:

Was a mastercash table, playing pretty deep. Oppo seems okish, nothing special by any means but wasn't losing. Check/calls with Ace high on flop the few I saw, rarely if ever folded to a cbet. Notes on him from a while ago that he can't fold anything, however don't think I've played him for ages until last couple of nights when he's played as said here. Don't think I saw him donk bet once and hadn't gone all in like this once either until now. Has he got QK? Are you calling? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance KCL31 Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £29.49 CrazyBen23 Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £99.50   Your hole cards 8 Q       WATERTAXI Call   £0.50 £1.25 £190.31 gerrard9 Fold         Die_hard Raise   £2.50 £3.75 £201.27 SJspanky1 Fold         KCL31 Fold         CrazyBen23 Fold         WATERTAXI Call   £2.00 £5.75 £188.31 Flop     J 10 9       WATERTAXI Bet   £5.75 £11.50 £182.56 Die_hard Raise   £13.00 £24.50 £188.27 WATERTAXI All-in   £182.56 £207.06 £0.00 Die_hard Should probably have reraised his flop bet more but that's besides the point here now lol.
Posted by Die_hard

This is a very tough and tricky spot to fully wrap your head around. It is one of those very unlikely situations whereby you have did a raise wid dem sooots cards. and likes. the cards have like somehow matcheded the boarded really close and you're all like zomg I did a run and they're all like zomg how the hell did he do a run. 

What i'm trying to say is that given the decision isn't instantly on you you should probably stand yourself up from your chair spread your arms in the air and run around the room yelping AYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY RUN RUN RUN AHAHAHA YUAYAYAYAY RUN AHAHAHAHAH IN YOUR EYE MET I DID A RUN AHAHAHAHAHAH

make sure though that you get back to the computer in time to call and not time out or you will have some of dem eggies on your faces.

AMYBR

ahhhhhhhhhhh so it is you..........................

BorinLoner

You know, we get alot of these "Can I get away from this cooler?" type posts on the clinic. The answer's always "No, that's what we mean by a "cooler"". You can't get hung up on spots like this (If he does have the KQ) because folding them is going to be -ev in the long-run. You might be behind sometimes but don't worry about it; If you do anything other than go broke, you've played it badly...

...although you could say you didn't need to be involved in the first place, ain't nowt wrong with raising in position.

jh16

going a little by what ppl are saying, im guessing it could be anything but im thinking its Q10/K10 of diamonds!!

did you call btw/what did he end up with?!

Die_hard

Cheers all. 

Well I didnt instacall lol as like I said he hadn't done that once so really surprised me. 

Called though, he had QKo lol. Result irrelavent really but I didn't improve. 

Just a tad annoying as its 8x buyins on a normal table. Just a cooler though I suppose as said, else there wouldn't be a thread lol. 

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
KCL31	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£29.49
CrazyBen23	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£99.50
	Your hole cards	8 Q
WATERTAXI	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£190.31
gerrard9	Fold
Die_hard	Raise		£2.50	£3.75	£201.27
SJspanky1	Fold
KCL31	Fold
CrazyBen23	Fold
WATERTAXI	Call		£2.00	£5.75	£188.31
Flop
		J 10 9
WATERTAXI	Bet		£5.75	£11.50	£182.56
Die_hard	Raise		£13.00	£24.50	£188.27
WATERTAXI	All-in		£182.56	£207.06	£0.00
Die_hard	Call		£175.31	£382.37	£12.96
WATERTAXI	Show	K Q
Die_hard	Show	8 Q
Turn
		6
River
		2
WATERTAXI	Win	Straight to the King	£380.57		£380.57

huuuuume

gross

ul

DrRunGood

got to call if he has kq then so be it but it is unlikely but depends long you played with him to know if he going to do this with a big range my experiance with player is he will pay your bills

Batkin88

Love the way Mr WATERTAXI's game was disected on this thread then in the hand in question he plays it so well.
He hits the nuts and doesn't wait for the c-bet he just whacks in a pot size bet, absolute class.
VUL by the way you should def call here i would of put him on a set or a flush draw like KT OR AT tbh