dont understand the push

sara36dd08

AmountPotBalancepaul10Small blind 200.00200.0011727.50Lil_meBig blind 400.00600.006135.00 Your hole cardsKK   JOHNNY84Call 400.001000.0012645.00sara36dd08Raise 1600.002600.009970.00jonjo75Fold    denu1Fold    paul10Fold    Lil_meFold    JOHNNY84Call 1200.003800.0011445.00Flop  Q87   JOHNNY84All-in 11445.0015245.000.00sara36dd08All-in 9970.0025215.000.00JOHNNY84Unmatched bet 1475.0023740.001475.00JOHNNY84Show48   sara36dd08ShowKK   Turn  2   River  4   JOHNNY84WinTwo Pairs, 8s and 4s23740.00 2hi was wondering if anyone can see why he pushed ther its the £110 bounty hunter he has second pair no kicker

i raised pre he called i called with kings after flop

was it a bad call

could i have done anything ealse

thanks

YOUNG_GUN

Defo fold pre or even a snap fold on flop, KK is never gonna hold save the pennies wait for aces and them to be busted instead :P 

pod1

maybe he thought the q was a heart and he had flush draw as well :-)

Dudeskin8

And the point of this is? :S

AMYBR

Assume he just doesnt think you can call + when you do he has equity.

But it is major spew UL

sara36dd08

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

And the point of this is? :S
Posted by Dudeskin8

no point just checking there was no way off getting off the hand

Dudeskin8

Why would you want to get off it? lol

Honestly these sort of posts from supposed 'really good' MTT players make me cringe so much.

Batkin88

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

Why would you want to get off it? lol Honestly these sort of posts from supposed 'really good' MTT players make me cringe so much.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Wow don't hold back!

In regards to post he prob misread the queen for another heart VUL

sara36dd08

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

Why would you want to get off it? lol Honestly these sort of posts from supposed 'really good' MTT players make me cringe so much.
Posted by Dudeskin8

i hardley ever post on here

just wanted any advice that was going

sorry for troubling you

AMYBR

Its a grim hand sara in a T where you'd expect better and you are fully entitled to put it up to get feedback.

Dont think dudeskin meant to be such a goit

Ignore him

DOHHHHHHH

Sara, what do YOU think you could or should have done differently in this hand?

What other options do you have, and what are the pros and cons of them?

Dudeskin8

I didn't mean to be rude it's just I don't understand what else you would want here, the guy shoves 25bbs into you on flop with BP and gets lucky.

And I say again you're a VERY big winning player so surely you see this result everyday and it just gets boring and standard?

sara36dd08

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

Sara, what do YOU think you could or should have done differently in this hand? What other options do you have, and what are the pros and cons of them?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

dohhhhh

maybe he could have hit a set

should i have folded?

pro for him was a bounty

con for me the call was for my tourny

yes it looks like a bad beat whinge  ias dudeskin sayes i see this alot everyday

i think the call was right

just wanted other opinion

beaneh

2 pair > 1 pair! he knows the hand rankings chart imo

rancid

hand made me chuckle

just an obvious bluff or a donk

pryce6

tbf I have no problem with what Dudeskin has said.

And yes this is the thought process of 80% of winning Sky mtt players...

hurst05

think we should be raising 5 or 6 x the blind preflop. 4 just isn't big enough after 1 limper. other than that its fine x

GREGHOGG

ye you should defo lose value with your kk and make them fold everything.. make it a 10x pre

and on the flop fold when your ahead cos hes defo gonna suck out on the river

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unknown_username

In his mind he had you on AK or AJ or even a pocket pair below a Queen and decided to push believing you would not call! Just a gamblers bluff.

grantorino

raise smaller pre

snapcall flop you crush his range

Surprised you posted this if you are an experienced player. You cant avoid variance in poker, this is a really awesome spot to get your chips in

As for understanding villain thought process, somethin like this:

Pre:ooh I have two sooted cards call. Sara raised me,my hand is still purty I calls

Postflop: Yay a pair, but overcards might come and I wont know what to do, so shove weeeee and make sara fold worse hands

yb

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

think we should be raising 5 or 6 x the blind preflop. 4 just isn't big enough after 1 limper. other than that its fine x
Posted by hurst05

I can tell your a cash fish, with one limper gotta 7x at the very least. 5x raises are reserved for the final table.

hurst05

In Response to Re: dont understand the push:

In Response to Re: dont understand the push : I can tell your a cash fish, with one limper gotta 7x at the very least. 5x raises are reserved for the final table.
Posted by yb

dont be such a noob. if we 7x i think we commit too much to the pot. makes it hard to get away from preflop, cause if he jams over the top, he could have aces.

Die_hard

Wrong section - 'Brags, Beats and Variance' threads that way --->

barnsie

fold pre imo