IS THIS CONSIDERED SLOWROLLING? I DONT THINK SO BUT OTHERS DID

bigflop1

LIVE GAME QUITE DEEP.. BLINDS 1K 2K

MY STACK 60K... UTG MAKES IT 6K.. I RERAISE TO 18K

BIG BLIND SHOVES ALL IN FOR ABOUT 40K, ORIGINAL RAISER FOLDS..

IM SITTING THERE WITH QUEENS.. TANK FOR ABOUT 5 MINS B4 CALLING.. OTHER GUY HAS AK.. 

MY QUEENS HOLD.. OTHER GUY IS NOT HAPPY AS HE THINKS I SLOW ROLLED HIM????


PERSONALLY I DO NOT THINK THIS WAS A SNAP CALL AS HIS RANGE IMO IS ONLY JJ KK AA (UNLIKLEY HE HAS QQ) MAYBE AK

ONLY HAND IM A BIG FAVE OVER IN HIS RANGE IS JJ AND FLIPPING AGAINST AK..

IS THIS A SNAP CALL OR WAS I IN MY RIGHT TO TANK FOR A BIT??

 

bigflop1

I VERY NEARLY FOLDED.. IF IT WAS A BIGGER GAME THAN A £30 MTT 30 RUNNER IN MY LOCAL CASINO I COULD EASILY HAVE FOLDED HERE

FlyingDagg

I've never played live but even I know that it is definately not a slowroll. Surely it can only be classed a s a slowrolll if you have the nuts?

AMYBR

Its a nit roll.

He doesnt say boo to a goose when he improves.

bearlyther

We can never fold queens here this is a great spot to bouble up if you fold you are going to have 10 big blinds which better spots are you going to get? 

unknown_username

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Its a nit roll. He doesnt say boo to a goose when he improves.
Posted by AMYBR

+1

1267

Sick slow roll, put in a third of your stack alreadyy.  SNAP !

Mohican

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I VERY NEARLY FOLDED.. IF IT WAS A BIGGER GAME THAN A £30 MTT 30 RUNNER IN MY LOCAL CASINO I COULD EASILY HAVE FOLDED HERE
Posted by bigflop1

£30 or £300 buy-in, money shouldn't factor in this decision.Call BTW for all the reasons stated above.

spornybol

ARE YOU SURE IT WAS YOU AN NOT TIKAY ( ASLEEP ) ))

AS ALREADY STATED IF YOU HAD POCKET ACES THEN YES ( NASTY ) BUT 2 HANDS A/A K/K BEATING YOU AND FLIP WITH A/K SO NO, ALSO WONDER HOW MANY PRO`S WOULD SNAP OR THINK ABOUT THIS SPOT YOU WAS IN ??

bigflop1

maybe a snap call but still do not think its a slowroll

SolarCarro

Its not a slowroll, you can only slowroll if you have the nuts

End of story

DOHHHHHHH

I didn't think it was until I re-read and saw the BB only had 20xbb. 

It's probably a sigh call with it being a cold 4b, the price you're getting with queens is incredible though, It's a "sigh, snap call" lol.

Never ever folding in a million years are you ...................

unknown_username

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Its not a slowroll, you can only slowroll if you have the nuts End of story
Posted by SolarCarro

+1

liamboi11

imo not slowroll but when u decide to 3-bet and he only has 20bbs i snap call

YOUNG_GUN

Seems like a slowroll to me if u were considering folding surely u were 3 betting less?? nvm he only moaned cos he lost a flip 

GREGHOGG

This is a clear nit roll

And.. if a competant player nit rolls, its basically a slowroll imo

so... either you are incompetent, or you slowrolled

J-Hartigan

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This is a clear nit roll And.. if a competant player nit rolls, its basically a slowroll imo so... either you are incompetent, or you slowrolled
Posted by GREGHOGG

Harsh, but spot on.

You can't make a thee-bet that big (which accounts for nearly a third of your stack) and then fold. And QQ is definitely ahead of your opponent's range.

rancid

When you raise/3 bet you should know what your going to do if the action goes blah blah blah
so yeah massive slow roll if you tanked for 5 min )

or if you do not think ahead  then it's just a nit roll - )

QQ - ok I 3 bet - look at phone - talk to friend - o someone has done something emmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Stare at other player intense like and try to read their souls and somehow work out that if they
wink or smile they must have AA
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .......................................................I call..............
Then turn to table and say " I had a tell he had AK" wink haha

AcidMan27

Yeah you can't 3bet so big and seriously think about folding here.

bearlyther

Yes definate slowroll

spornybol

everyone has missed something ?? oppo`s table image !! what has he/she been like pre shoving.

AcidMan27

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everyone has missed something ?? oppo`s table image !! what has he/she been like pre shoving.
Posted by spornybol

Doesn't matter when we have committed so much already.

utopian9

Unlike others here, I don't think it's a snap call, it needed some thought, but 5 minutes, a bit much. 

EvilPingu

Should be a snap call. I'm surprised nobody called the clock on you tbh.

Dudeskin8

For another 11bbs with QQ you should be snap calling and running round the table high-fiving people as you go lol, even considering folding is insane.

spornybol

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In Response to Re: IS THIS CONSIDERED SLOWROLLING? I DONT THINK SO BUT OTHERS DID : Doesn't matter when we have committed so much already.
Posted by AcidMan27

AS OP SAID QUITE DEEP IN TOURNIE PLAYER SHOVES, WHAT HAS THERE TABLE IMAGE BEEN ?? IT`S YOUR TOURNIE ON LINE, AS MOST/ALL SAY`S RATHER BE SHOVER THAN CALLER !

AcidMan27

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In Response to Re: IS THIS CONSIDERED SLOWROLLING? I DONT THINK SO BUT OTHERS DID : AS OP SAID QUITE DEEP IN TOURNIE PLAYER SHOVES, WHAT HAS THERE TABLE IMAGE BEEN ?? IT`S YOUR TOURNIE ON LINE, AS MOST/ALL SAY`S RATHER BE SHOVER THAN CALLER !
Posted by spornybol

You're completely missing the mathematics of the situation. If the OP didn't want to call a shove by one of the smaller stacks he shouldn't have 3bet so big.

With the ammount now in the pot that we can win because their range isn't just KK/AA  then we have to call.

AMYBR

Cant really apply the math when person asking may not know it.

Its just a nit roll, simple.