Check call, check fold or bet fold

KKrippler

Oppo unknown, how did i play the hand and should I fold to reraise. 

Your hole cardsQQ   MICKSFISHFold    xRaise £0.60£1.05£32.66MATT8Fold    KCL31Fold    KKripplerRaise £1.80£2.85£29.13Neil29Call £1.65£4.50£27.10xCall £1.35£5.85£31.31Flop  449   KKripplerBet £2.70£8.55£26.43Neil29Call £2.70£11.25£24.40xCall £2.70£13.95£28.61Turn  A   KKripplerCheck    Neil29Check    xCheck    River  2   KKripplerBet £4.00£17.95£22.43Neil29Fold    xRaise £14.98£32.93£13.63KKripplerCall £10.98£43.91£11.45

KKrippler

And how bad is my bet sizing?

beaneh

if you bet really small to induce a bluff on the river then it's fine.

I would cbet bigger, bet/f the turn and bet bigger on the river.

HYPETING

I probably check call river.

EvilPingu

Interesting hand - Made a bit of a mess of it IMO, will post thoughts when I wake up later :P

pod1

seems as though you got caught between 2 lines here, you got to think your ahead after flop so bet bigger for value, turn fine and i would check call river.

would like to ask beaneh "why bet river more?" 

GREGHOGG

Neil has a four imo

I dont understand why we would bet the turn mr beane sir, cos they are not folding an ace or a four, what are we getting value from? Are you betting for info... cough... lol, ok diamond draws and mid pp's can come along if they are stoopid.

also what would your turn bet size be into two opponants in this spot? guess about £7?

pod1

greg what hand is neil calling a 3x with which includes a 4?

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: Check call, check fold or bet fold:

greg what hand is neil calling a 3x with which includes a 4?
Posted by pod1

44

45s

A4s

pod1

im sure he will love you saying 45!! 44 i can take but then checking the turn doesnt :-)

rancid

In Response to Re: Check call, check fold or bet fold:

if you bet really small to induce a bluff on the river then it's fine. I would cbet bigger, bet/f the turn and bet bigger on the river.
Posted by beaneh

+ 1

Wacko90

Looks like 99 to me 

WHOAMI196

Neil cold calling (which is pocket pair heavy) has allowed X to potentially come in with a wide range(if he opens wide from utg that is?)so his range is not necessarily Ace heavy. I would c-bet flop bigger from SB, turn as played i would bet/fold ~7, its a great card to bluff with 88,66 KQs etc , and you can get value from flush draws or a stubborn JJ, 1010 etc with your QQ i think.

Checking turn is not bad, you can get thin value from villains weak holdings by v-betting river, for me X rarely has an A since there's not much value in re-raising the way he did, so its pretty polarised to 4x, 22, or missed flush draw/air. What were you trying to achieve with the small lead on the river m8?

thebil123

Your bet on river too small, better to check call actually.

beaneh

In Response to Re: Check call, check fold or bet fold:

Neil has a four imo I dont understand why we would bet the turn mr beane sir, cos they are not folding an ace or a four, what are we getting value from? Are you betting for info... cough... lol, ok diamond draws and mid pp's can come along if they are stoopid. also what would your turn bet size be into two opponants in this spot? guess about £7?
Posted by GREGHOGG

bet bigger on flop so pot is ~16 on turn if 3way. then bet 12 ish on the Ace and fold to a raise, be very wary if called. they can still call with worse mid pairs and fd's etc.

KKrippler

Interesting analysis.

Oppo had 4,4 for quads.

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: Check call, check fold or bet fold:

Interesting analysis. Oppo had 4,4 for quads.
Posted by KKrippler

Told ya he had a 4 poddy!

see i knows my pokerz

grantorino

bet turn, I know its a bit meh but you would barrell air here a lot

river as played bet but make it bigger and fold to a raise. calling is fine if you bet small to induce

pod1

lol, lucky hoggers!!