MTT - KQ, TPGK facing 40bb donk shove

Dudeskin8

No reads on player, although don't recall anything like this previously.

Tourney is £1.10 £20 GTD

BoltofWeed	Small blind		20.00	20.00	2218.00
xxMaxinexx	Big blind		40.00	60.00	1920.00
	Your hole cards	K Q
allinmikey	Fold
pp2322	Fold
FR33	Call		40.00	100.00	6065.00
Dudeskin8	Raise		120.00	220.00	1580.00
BoltofWeed	Fold
xxMaxinexx	Call		80.00	300.00	1840.00
FR33	Call		80.00	380.00	5985.00
Flop
		Q 9 10
xxMaxinexx	All-in		1840.00	2220.00	0.00
FR33	Fold
Dudeskin8

kidwizzz78

That is an overbet if youve ever seen one!! , i think i make the call tho he could be doin it with anything i cant see him having AA KK as he just flatted pre unless he likes to play slow but id still rule that out

Im gunna say hes got sumit like J9 maybe qx n doesnt wanna see a 4th card to straight come out lol

percival09

pre I raise bigger 

I call - he's probz doing this with pair+straight/flushdraw

Dudeskin8

On the raise size I often make it smaller in spots like this where I'm IP and also fairly shallow, so post flop play costs less if I miss, would you say this is wrong thinking ?

grantorino

call

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: MTT - KQ, TPGK facing 40bb donk shove:

On the raise size I often make it smaller in spots like this where I'm IP and also fairly shallow, so post flop play costs less if I miss, would you say this is wrong thinking ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

In a vacuum I always say "Make it 3x plus 1BB for every limper", blah, blah, blah... but if you think they're always calling, why would you want to do that with KQ? I think you're exactly right, make it smaller and take it away from them on the flop...

In this case, we know that good players don't make the donk-shove so obviously this player isn't too good. Trying to define her range is going to be like nailing jelly to the wall. The only thing I'd say is that whatever she turns over isn't going to surprise me. I probably fold and wait to catch her out with a bigger hand later. Calling now would be a high variance play, against a player whom we probably have an enormous edge on. We should be able to whittle away at her stack in a more controlled manner... but we could be moved away from them at any moment, I suppose.

BorinLoner

A call is fine too. I just feel like you're going to see two-pairs alot, or combo draws that we're not a favourite against. I should probably just say "I dunno"... Good luck making your decision. lol

AMYBR

3 to a flop in micro BI, I pass.

Even bad players make good moves at times.  Think alot of 2pr/made hands ship here.  What isnt made we draw thin vs.  Nrly 50 bigs behind?  Think we can find a better spot

.....

But then again worse & blocked draws do this.....  Myeh dont hate a call. 

AMYBR

In Response to Re: MTT - KQ, TPGK facing 40bb donk shove:

On the raise size I often make it smaller in spots like this where I'm IP and also fairly shallow, so post flop play costs less if I miss, would you say this is wrong thinking ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

If we are doing it with junk also is fine.