£1 mtt easy fold here??

3barrels

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
3barrels	Small blind		40.00	40.00	2625.00
CTC	Big blind		80.00	120.00	6050.00
	Your hole cards	8 8
eon1961	Fold
Emmy44	Raise		160.00	280.00	2540.00
scoucer	Raise		240.00	520.00	2397.50
3barrels	Call		200.00	720.00	2425.00
CTC	Fold
Emmy44	Call		80.00	800.00	2460.00
Flop
		3 4 4
3barrels	Check
Emmy44	Check
scoucer	Bet		240.00	1040.00	2157.50
3barrels	Call		240.00	1280.00	2185.00
Emmy44	All-in		2460.00	3740.00	0.00
scoucer	All-in		2157.50	5897.50	0.00

pod1

yep

GREGHOGG

Should be a fold, but in a £1 mtt they dont have to have you beat, but against two players u would have to dodge plenty of overcards

Still a fold, on balance

3barrels

both players were very active at the table

Dudeskin8

Got to be fold or shove pre for me. 

Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet. 

Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions. 

As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.

1267

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

Got to be fold or shove pre for me.  Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet.  Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions.  As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.
Posted by Dudeskin8

he does ...

beaneh

call pre in a small buyin, fold in a bigger.

fold flop regardeless as we did not match our eights with an eight on the board.

Dudeskin8

I always want at least 15-1, that's 3000, what's in pot + biggest effective stack is 3060 but this is JUST about good enough, however like I say we might not even see a flop in this hand. 

Still fold or shove pre for me. 

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

Got to be fold or shove pre for me.  Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet.  Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions.  As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.
Posted by Dudeskin8

This is the key to me. We can't really set-mine because we're not closing the action. We end up donating 200 extra chips to the pot when we're shoved on behind by the initial raiser. Set-mining for 10% of your stack isn't too good anyway. Correction: It's not 10% of your stack. I was looking at the flop stacks.

3barrels

yes i was set mineing here it is

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
3barrels	Small blind		40.00	40.00	2625.00
CTC	Big blind		80.00	120.00	6050.00
	Your hole cards	8 8
eon1961	Fold
Emmy44	Raise		160.00	280.00	2540.00
scoucer	Raise		240.00	520.00	2397.50
3barrels	Call		200.00	720.00	2425.00
CTC	Fold
Emmy44	Call		80.00	800.00	2460.00
Flop
		3 4 4
3barrels	Check
Emmy44	Check
scoucer	Bet		240.00	1040.00	2157.50
3barrels	Call		240.00	1280.00	2185.00
Emmy44	All-in		2460.00	3740.00	0.00
scoucer	All-in		2157.50	5897.50	0.00
3barrels	Fold
Emmy44	Unmatched bet		62.50	5835.00	62.50
Emmy44	Show	K Q
scoucer	Show	Q Q
Turn
		8
River
		4
scoucer	Win	Full House, 4s and Queens	5835.00		5835.00

3barrels

im glad the KQ pushed cos if i got to the turn i would of lost alot if not it all

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

call pre in a small buyin, fold in a bigger. fold flop regardeless as we did not match our eights with an eight on the board.
Posted by beaneh

Why do we choose to play badly in smaller BI but good in higher BI ?

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

im glad the KQ pushed cos if i got to the turn i would of lost alot if not it all
Posted by 3barrels

If you'd seen the turn, you would have won alot, not lost. 8's full of 4's beats 4's full of Queens... I'm guessing you misread the board. lol

3barrels

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : If you'd seen the turn, you would have won alot, not lost. 8's full of 4's beats 4's full of Queens... I'm guessing you misread the board. lol
Posted by BorinLoner

oo so i did tnxs lol

AMYBR

Fold pre.

beaneh

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In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : Why do we choose to play badly in smaller BI but good in higher BI ?
Posted by Dudeskin8

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Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : in the words of one of the loves of my life Billie. BECAUSE WE WANT TOOOOOOOOO
Posted by beaneh

Yes, she isn't half bad .

beaneh

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:

In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : Yes, she isn't half bad .
Posted by Dudeskin8

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