PLO - Too nitty?

EvilPingu

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sharmsie10	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£9.12
OnlyOneCT	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£6.60
	Your hole cards	J 8 Q 10
hitachi515	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£87.63
EvilPingu	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£13.45
dumarse	Call		£0.10	£0.45	£2.70
fazz_415	Fold
sharmsie10	Raise		£0.45	£0.90	£8.67
OnlyOneCT	Call		£0.40	£1.30	£6.20
hitachi515	Call		£0.40	£1.70	£87.23
EvilPingu	Call		£0.40	£2.10	£13.05
dumarse	Call		£0.40	£2.50	£2.30
Flop
		Q 9 A
sharmsie10	Bet		£1.88	£4.38	£6.79
OnlyOneCT	Fold
hitachi515	Raise		£3.76	£8.14	£83.47
EvilPingu	Fold
dumarse	Fold
sharmsie10	Call		£1.88	£10.02	£4.91
Turn
		9
sharmsie10	All-in		£4.91	£14.93	£0.00
hitachi515	Call		£4.91	£19.84	£78.56
sharmsie10	Show	A J 10 2
hitachi515	Show	9 A 2 3
River
		Q
hitachi515	Win	Full House, 9s and Aces	£19.14		£97.70

WHOAMI196

why do you think that is too nitty when not at a single point in this hand you had the best of it, ok you have a straight draw but with the flush there its a easy fold.

Talon

  Dont think i have ever been able to say this about a single PLO hand posted in the clinic. But for me you played it to perfection.

 Preflop: You have a nice hand and is definitely one that you want to see a flop with your 5 nut drwaing hands. Dont mind the limp as most people will play too many hands so no need to artificially boost the pot. Dont mind the call of the raise either with the added bonus of good position.

 Flop: as soon as there is action in 2 spots in front of you then your only course of action here is to fold because although the oesd is a good draw you can easily be up against the same hand with a flush draw backup. Plus with the betsizing you only have 1 street to hit or be forced allin on the turn. At this stage with only 6 outs you are 3 to 1 to win at best and therefore folding it multiway is the best play here.

  So all in all you had a very nice starting hand which got a good piece of the flop and you correctly folded and lost the absolute minimum. If the flop had of come down slightly differently i.e. Ac Qx 9c. Then the correct move there would have been to reraise allin with such a massive combo draw going for you. Overall well played keep up the good work.

  The sign that you have truly arrived in this game is when you can flop the nuts but with no redraws at all and then when multiway action comes in you can fold. Folding the nuts on the flop in NLHE is suicidally bad but it is a skill that needs to be learnt to play PLO successfully. When you learn how to do that you will also see why this is a straightforwrd laydown.

Giant811

I think this is close-ish, but a fold. Against identical ranges of sets, 2 pair, nut flush draws and broadway wraps you have about 30% equity. If your opponents have tighter ranges you are in slightly worse shape, if they are loose and might stack off with top pair only you might get close to the 33% you need, but unless you're playing against complete maniacs who will gamble with basically any 4 you're never getting your money in ahead.