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bubble sickness.

why does this happen every f.e.ckin time seriously getting uber sick of it now this was for bubble on thews at 10 and yea i shoulda shoved all in pre maybe and yea maybe i shoulda just folded cos it was bubble for £50 quid but seriously i want to win the torny so didnt fold. But time after time after time, why are they even shoving here its ovb im gonna call and im strong or wouldnt of been betting in the first place so how can you think Q10 off is good here, its not losing races i mind but its the silly cards that come out. I totaly feel like im being set up on hands. Ive had it now and takin a break from here. Gl all.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
KP301 Small blind  1500.00 1500.00 71387.50
IDONKCALLU Big blind  3000.00 4500.00 45530.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
   
Dazler Raise  9000.00 13500.00 16616.50
law00723 Fold     
winlose Fold     
KP301 All-in  71387.50 84887.50 0.00
IDONKCALLU Fold     
Dazler All-in  16616.50 101504.00 0.00
KP301 Unmatched bet  47271.00 54233.00 47271.00
KP301 Show
  • 10
  • Q
   
Dazler Show
  • A
  • K
   
Flop
  
  • 8
  • 4
  • A
   
Turn
  
  • K
   
River
  
  • 2
   
KP301 Win Flush to the Ace 54233.00

Comments

  • edited April 2012
    another bubble today
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    MCP Small blind  600.00 600.00 15205.00
    billrobe Big blind  1200.00 1800.00 9600.00
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • J
       
    softwood21 Call  1200.00 3000.00 6735.00
    Dazler Call  1200.00 4200.00 6135.00
    MCP Call  600.00 4800.00 14605.00
    billrobe Check     
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 4
    • 8
       
    MCP All-in  14605.00 19405.00 0.00
    billrobe Fold     
    softwood21 Fold     
    Dazler All-in  6135.00 25540.00 0.00
    MCP Unmatched bet  8470.00 17070.00 8470.00
    MCP Show
    • 8
    • 7
       
    Dazler Show
    • Q
    • J
       
    Turn
      
    • 7
       
    River
      
    • 5
       
    MCP Win Two Pairs, 8s and 7s 17070.00
  • edited April 2012
    and another
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    softwood21 Small blind  300.00 300.00 10010.00
    Dazler Big blind  600.00 900.00 9330.00
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
       
    MCP Fold     
    billrobe Raise  1200.00 2100.00 1100.00
    JIMLUG Fold     
    Mylena Fold     
    softwood21 Fold     
    Dazler All-in  9330.00 11430.00 0.00
    billrobe All-in  1100.00 12530.00 0.00
    Dazler Unmatched bet  7630.00 4900.00 7630.00
    Dazler Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    billrobe Show
    • A
    • 10
       
    Flop
      
    • 3
    • 5
    • 6
       
    Turn
      
    • A
       
    River
      
    • 10
       
    billrobe Win Two Pairs, Aces and 10s 4900.00
  • edited April 2012
    and another
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Dazler Small blind  150.00 150.00 3445.00
    luckymuzzy Big blind  300.00 450.00 3270.00
     Your hole cards
    • Q
    • K
       
    pin-it Fold     
    JEFFD234 Fold     
    Dazler Raise  750.00 1200.00 2695.00
    luckymuzzy Call  600.00 1800.00 2670.00
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • Q
    • 2
       
    Dazler Bet  900.00 2700.00 1795.00
    luckymuzzy All-in  2670.00 5370.00 0.00
    Dazler Call  1770.00 7140.00 25.00
    Dazler Show
    • Q
    • K
       
    luckymuzzy Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    Turn
      
    • A
       
    River
      
    • 9
       
    luckymuzzy Win Full House, Queens and Aces 7140.00  7140.00
  • edited April 2012
    1) Jam pre.
    2)Reraise jam or fold. Limp is bad.
    3)Just a standard outdraw
    4)12 bb's. Raise 2.5x and you could(maybeish) fold to leave 10bb's otherwise just jam it if you're not folding to a reraise.
  • edited April 2012
    AK 100% open shove.

    QJ hand is super ugly and you deserve to lose due to preflop play lol

    AQ fine

    KQ always shoving here as you get people making awful calls out of 10bbs stacks and then you miss OOP and might end up folding on flop. In this spot though you were never ahead at any stage. 
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubble sickness.:
    1) Jam pre. 2)Reraise jam or fold. Limp is bad. 3)Just a standard outdraw 4)12 bb's. Raise 2.5x and you could(maybeish) fold to leave 10bb's otherwise just jam it if you're not folding to a reraise.
    Posted by Mohican
    yea i know i shoulda jammed pre with the first one but they were gonna call what ever. It just does my head in that they happen to hit the most silly cards when it matters its not just the odd game here and there but every game im playing lately. Im used to getting beats in races but it really tilts me when i see it happen like this on the bubble.

    And the second one yes i coulda shoved but on this instance i limped to see texture of flop and i was on the bb so could see action of everyone in before i make decision, and hit top pair and he shoves with 2nd pair which he did a lot, but low and behold the usual 2 pair i see far too much. He wasnt gonna be folding even if i shoved pre as he got lucky double ups constantly with these hands even when i had KK and he had 99 and hits st8 so wanted to have a made hand before shoving. I do understand the reason for shoving pre and your right prob was the right move but different when you havnt got a clock ticking down at the time, its the bubble and you have been outdrawn 4 times before this when ive shoved pre. Each opponent and player is different and i like to try and outplay them rather than constant race.

    Last hand was just bad luck but its just always that feeling that ive been set upto lose as it seems to know the chips are gonna be in, so one player is gonna bubble and the rest will cash,

    I played two big tornys somewhere else a bit later on and after calming down and getting off tilt which i was at this point mainly due to the fact that i just reloaded to play the thews at 10 and had a bad day of it.
    first one was 

    9190 players
    Total Prize Pool: $91900.00 USD 
    You finished the tournament in 986th place

    4370 players
    Total Prize Pool: $8740.00 USD 
    You finished the tournament in 93rd place

    but one thing someone said to me while i was chatting during these big mtts was 'Thats poker son' which is a line i hate when ive been on a bad run but he also said 'If you can feel comfortable saying that line you have made it to the next level' Which i know is something im not always comfortable thinking still and hes absolutely right. Im 3 quarters the way there but Just cant feel that way with online poker at times when i see so many 2 outter bubble bursters.

    ill troop on and man up anyways as its not just the dealer that has to deal! i do to!.
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubble sickness.:
    AK 100% open shove. QJ hand is super ugly and you deserve to lose due to preflop play lol AQ fine KQ always shoving here as you get people making awful calls out of 10bbs stacks and then you miss OOP and might end up folding on flop. In this spot though you were never ahead at any stage. 
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    wasnt any pre flop play i could make apart from fold, shove or limp couldnt raise with it so opted for the limp on this occasion as its playable but not strong to shove with on bubble. Some times i will do just that but we live and learn lol. Think its a bit harsh to say i deserve to lose in that spot though, i never deserve it :(
  • edited April 2012
    You have 6bbs in the QJ hand so are really in danger territory in that most shoves get called with anything.

    So therefore ANY unopened pot you have to be shoving, here I'd probably fold as not sure first guy can limp/fold that stack size either and he's probz ahead, but shoving is defo better than limping.

    Sorry for saying deserve lol but just trying to iron out any leaks in your game really and this one stood out like a sore thumb ;)
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