Im back again moaning.....

ClintonH83

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
vincent424	Small blind		10.00	10.00	2930.00
clemo1980	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2980.00
	Your hole cards	Q Q
Boge	Fold
madgey81	Call		20.00	50.00	3180.00
ClintonH83	Raise		100.00	150.00	2490.00
potnoodles	Fold
vincent424	Fold
clemo1980	Fold
madgey81	Call		80.00	230.00	3100.00
Flop
		J 10 2
madgey81	Check
ClintonH83	Bet		230.00	460.00	2260.00
madgey81	Call		230.00	690.00	2870.00
Turn
		5
madgey81	All-in		2870.00	3560.00	0.00
ClintonH83	All-in		2260.00	5820.00	0.00
madgey81	Unmatched bet		610.00	5210.00	610.00
madgey81	Show	9 7
ClintonH83	Show	Q Q
River
		8
madgey81	Win	Straight to the Jack	5210.00		5820.00

ClintonH83

I cant possibly fold the turn? what am i suppose to believe he has a set of 5's?? Check, calls the flop, 5 comes on the turn and all in?

3barrels

bad shove noone is ever shoving AAKK JJ here or even a set for that good call unlucky on river

Lambert180

Of course you can't fold the turn, and why would you, you're miles ahead. he has 4 outs. You just got unlucky. I'm sure there have been lots of times when YOU'VE got lucky though. People only post the bad beats they receive, never the ones they give.

ClintonH83

I dont really call this a bad beat i call it Horrible poker haha I can honestly say ive never done anything like this, go all in needing to hit a miracle 8 and hit it but i get your point.

Like you say its just unlucky but so is my bank roll at the moment lol

rancid

Nohinng to see here, stuff happens in poker - just deal with it

Grumble, grumble )

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
HITMAN_RV	Small blind		600.00	600.00	19347.50
baker43	Big blind		1200.00	1800.00	31422.48
	Your hole cards	Q Q
rancid	Raise		2400.00	4200.00	11505.00
Moon_River	Fold
Theredcat	Fold
caroline17	Call		2400.00	6600.00	20597.50
HITMAN_RV	Fold
baker43	Fold
Flop
		10 6 2
rancid	Bet		3300.00	9900.00	8205.00
caroline17	Raise		16500.00	26400.00	4097.50
rancid	All-in		8205.00	34605.00	0.00
caroline17	Unmatched bet		4995.00	29610.00	9092.50
rancid	Show	Q Q
caroline17	Show	J K
Turn
		4
River
		3
caroline17	Win	Flush to the King	29610.00		38702.50

Lambert180

Rancid why didn't you just fold pre? Surely you knew they were gonna flop a flush

3barrels

its early in a mtt too so these things happen alot

AMYBR

Minning a 10 BB stack ranny?.....

Dudeskin8

Played it fine Clinton, just run better. 

rancid

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

Minning a 10 BB stack ranny?.....
Posted by AMYBR

haha ofc why change my sizing according to my hand )

IDONKCALLU

min raising out of 100 bb stack is funny looks like a hugh hand min raising out of 10 bb stack all in looks weaker hardly a bad beat tho is it 

rancid

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

min raising out of 100 bb stack is funny looks like a hugh hand min raising out of 10 bb stack all in looks weaker hardly a bad beat tho is it 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Debatable, no not a bad beat - just highlighting how pointless this fred is

ClintonH83

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In Response to Re: Im back again moaning..... : Debatable, no not a bad beat - just highlighting how pointless this fred is
Posted by rancid

Rancid pal you dont have to leave a comment! If your gonna be a Sarcastic t... id sooner you give you advice to someone else

Lambert180

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

min raising out of 100 bb stack is funny looks like a hugh hand min raising out of 10 bb stack all in looks weaker hardly a bad beat tho is it 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Yeah I agree with Rancid abuot this being debateable, I think if you're always min-raising then it looks strange when you suddenly jam. But likewise if you keep open jamming, then min-raise when you pick up AA so you don't lose value, that will look fishy. As Rancid has said to me a ton of times, at these stages of MTTs, keep your raise sizes the same with AA as you would with JTs or 66

rancid

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning..... : Rancid pal you dont have to leave a comment! If your gonna be a Sarcastic t... id sooner you give you advice to someone else
Posted by ClintonH83

Don't really know what advice your after with this post of oppo shoving on you with gutshot and you making an obvious call with QQ.

This is a bad beat, what do we learn from bad beats - long term bad beats are good for us so.....gg

Sorry for hijacking and being a bit sarcastic but Clinic is for help and advice - BBV is for bad beats

If you post in the wrong section then, don't be surprised if posters get a bit funny )

run golden

rancid

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning..... : Yeah I agree with Rancid abuot this being debateable, I think if you're always min-raising then it looks strange when you suddenly jam. But likewise if you keep open jamming, then min-raise when you pick up AA so you don't lose value, that will look fishy. As Rancid has said to me a ton of times, at these stages of MTTs, keep your raise sizes the same with AA as you would with JTs or 66
Posted by Lambert180

mmmm I would say yes and no
Depends if you oppo's will be aware of any change in your raise size
If oppo are random bads, then I wouldn't worry about if you have been jammin 2 hands previous then min raising UTG w/AA - random bads are more likely to call pre to a min and station off on flops with TPGK so.... like a lot of things it depends

AMYBR

All that logic goes out the window with 10bbs obv.  We ought to be in auto ship or fold mode for any hand.

No room for anything else. 

rancid

In Response to Re: Im back again moaning.....:

All that logic goes out the window with 10bbs obv.  We ought to be in auto ship or fold mode for any hand. No room for anything else. 
Posted by AMYBR

rrrr I disagree, if your playing versus oppo's that easily just call a min raise with marginals - then you want calls to a min - bearing mind it's a £2 MTT - you'll get more calls to a min than a shove


but again it's debatable - just depends on table & oppo's