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can't get me head around online play;(

margatemafmargatemaf
edited November 2009 in Poker Chat
Hi guys, 

had a great time on here! i truly have!! but i just cannot get my head around online play in the slightest!! getting to the point where i am starting to get a little frustrated now as i am not a stupid person by any stretch of the imagination ;) and whatever it is i am lacking i just cannot put my finger on it .... had plenty of advice especially from one member to which i heeded and still no joy in any shape or form.

when i play live, i am so much better, but online seem to be a real doofus and can't seem to put a foot right. So rather than let it start to get the better of me, knocking it on the head. Even the books about online play are not really giving me any hope at the moment.

i don't know if it's my understanding of the game or what or wether i am not learning from my mistakes, but something is not gelling and it is starting to get the better of me. when the enjoyment is gone time to walk, love my live play so Going to stick to live paly where i feel most comfertable and my opponents dont lol ;)


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  • Hale72Hale72
    edited November 2009
    Just play really, really tight.

    There are far too many players here playing with loose cards that will get you.

    Once you have adjusted your play to accomodate this, you will be fine. Trust me.

    If it really is that bad, take a few days away, as i find if i am not hitting cards, I will start to chase stuff I normally won't and play a too large a range of cards.

    At the micro DYM's the tightest play usually works but then be aggressive on the bubble, but don't go over the top.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s
    edited November 2009
    Margate i'd seriously give it longer.

    Did you walk straight into casino's and play the £500 tournys when you first started playing live? I'll bet not.

    I'll have a guess that you started with friends around a table and you were all pretty awful, then over a LONG period of time your reads on your friends and your game development will have increased to a level that you felt good about your game. Then you try the small casino tournys and get slapped about a bit. Then you try again and do a bit better. I'm sure it will all come together for you if you stick with it

    I've seen you play against good people and do well (FT on the first posters roll if IIRC)

    Take a break, move down the levels or just stick to one discapline (Cash or tourny, Sng) whichever your having the most sucsess with. But don't give up on it cos there's a world of fun to be had online (even if your not doing it at a great profit)

    P.S did you check out the site that i PM'ed you the other week?
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  • Hogg321Hogg321
    edited November 2009
    Tight is right :)

    Keep notes on the players on your table, always useful.

    If you're playing at a med-high stakes here, most players will probably be regulars and know the general play here, and have probably more experience at poker than live players (lot more hands played in a set time) i'd definetly consider dropping a level or two till you get used to the play :)
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  • Hale72Hale72
    edited November 2009
    I do know you like your DYMs.

    Keep going at them at the lowest level. You may lose a few quid over the next week or so, but long term, you will gain a working strategy. What works for me, may not work for you.

    I started down there, and trust me, the plays are that loose, you can't even trust your monsters but you can beat them.

    Better to invest a few quid now to gain the knowledge required to make a few quid later.

    It's the same as calling someone you know has got you beat just to see the range of cards he is playing.

    I have done that on many occassions especially if it has been an extremely aggressive player who has been taking the pots down pre showdown. Notes then made and info like that can be priceless in the future.
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  • PILLOWMANPILLOWMAN
    edited November 2009
    HI M8 , THINK SOME GOOD ADVICE HAS BEEN GIVEN .IF ITS GETTING TO YOU , TAKE A BREAK . WE HAVE ALL FELT LIKE YOU DO NOW AT SOME POINT . GL.
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  • TalonTalon
    edited November 2009
      The main piece of information you need is the differences between live and online play.

      Live play will be more loose passive as less hands are played per hour.
      Live is also tighter in tournys because online if you crash out there will be another starting in a couple of minutes.
      Live play gives you physical tells which are not available online.
      Calling down light is easier online because of the anonimity in online play as compared to live.
      Bad decisions are made online due to the lack of thinking time that is available live.
      Because of the low stakes online compared to live people are much more willing to gamble with very marginal holdings online.


       These are just a few of the differences.  Once you can factor these into your game you will find your online play improving. Just stick to it mate you have good game and your mental breakthrough will come soon
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  • nirvana29nirvana29
    edited November 2009
    dont think about it too much man, just enjoy.
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  • apollo_11apollo_11
    edited November 2009
    Just play tight and pick your moments.
    You are a good player and you will turn it around online once you get used to the loose players.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited November 2009
    Marge give it more time. Too early to pack in. PM me where it's falling down for you. If I can help I gladly will.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2009

    good luck to you in whatever your decision is

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  • dav1964dav1964
    edited November 2009
    Hi ive just sent you a personal message,laters m8
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  • margatemafmargatemaf
    edited November 2009
    Have taken the advice on board an like i said, i cannot play the game if it is going to frustrate me. If i felt like i was learning while losing then it would be a completely different story! Unfortunately i am the kind of person that needs to know why things are not right ( just because i am a naturally nosey ...  well you know the word lol ) and i really cannot fathom it. So rather than be a player that starts posting up that sky poker is rigged and post up bad beat stories end up getting sectioned to area 51, i'd rather knock it on the head because i don't wanna be put in the same box as webby!! ( only joking mate!!!!!!!!! just a bit of banter ;) ) 

    I hear what your saying give it a bit more time etc etc but when i am only 1/100th of the player online as to the live player an i can't figure out why then i won't be enjoying it, take the fun out of poker for me then you may as well cut my arms an legs off!!

    i read so many posts on here about bad beats and how sky is rigged and you all know i defend sky to the hilt and usually very aggressively too!! ( thought some replies were going to get deleted) and what's my advice always been, don't play or go somewhere else!! so i am gonna stick around on the forum cause you guys are like a second family always have a giggle an thats what life is about!! " everyday's a good day!! " ( Elsa no gushing replies to this!! lol ) but no more games.

    The funny thing is, last night and i don't know why, i went on full tilt. They had the poker million freeroll tourney round 1. 1,669 runners top 27 qualified for round 2 and i finished 20th! But you know what i cannot think how i got there as skill never come into it! had 5 all in calls and because of the frame of mind i was in yesterday i just thought what the heck! lol evreytime doubled on through and qualified for saturdays evenings round 2. Yet win a DYM on 30p /50p it's like a pork chop at a jewish wedding, it's never gonna happen!

    So this begs 2 questions ..... 

    1.do i think about things too much and should i have more of a gung ho attitude? Well no, because i think poker is a thinking persons game where you pit your wit's against your opponents

    2. How on earth did get through such a large field on full tilt? i have no idea whatsoever! well actually i have 2 theories on this ... either sky had a word with full tilt and said look go easy on the guy tonight or that site is rigged for me to win lol unfortunately full tilt don't have an area 51 ;)

    Elsa i will pm you buddy. Hales your a legend an you already know what i think about you anyways!! ;) right off to work more idiots on the road to deal with and pupils that don't know the meaning or the concept of stopping for pedestrians!!! or lorries!!!
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  • apollo_11apollo_11
    edited November 2009
    Well done on your qualifing game.
    Sometimes the poker gods are with you and every time you go all in the cards hit.
    You have to have the luck on your side to qualify in such a game and you had plenty last night.
    Make the most of it and play your normal game on Saturday and you will do well.
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  • scrumdownscrumdown
    edited November 2009
    play  tight  margatemaf   wait  for  the  hands  to  come  to  u    dont  chase  flushes  and  str8  draws  looose  to  much  money  in  the  long  run 
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  • scrumdownscrumdown
    edited November 2009
    a  solid  poker  win  more  money  in the  long  run  then  a  loose  one
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  • COCASIRFCOCASIRF
    edited November 2009
    I'm just like you Wayne, but I ve been learning in DYMS play tight and only play to limited starting hands and let the other players take each other out, when the blinds get bigger You have just got to hope you get a decent hand
    In MTTS I'll get back to you when I've found out..........lol.

    I should keep to DYM's because my bankroll is going down....lol.  but I love to play in the big tourneys and thats my downfall......lol.

    Hope you start getting better fortune and good luck.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can't get me head around online play;(:
      The main piece of information you need is the differences between live and online play.   Live play will be more loose passive as less hands are played per hour.   Live is also tighter in tournys because online if you crash out there will be another starting in a couple of minutes.   Live play gives you physical tells which are not available online.   Calling down light is easier online because of the anonimity in online play as compared to live.   Bad decisions are made online due to the lack of thinking time that is available live.   Because of the low stakes online compared to live people are much more willing to gamble with very marginal holdings online.    These are just a few of the differences.  Once you can factor these into your game you will find your online play improving. Just stick to it mate you have good game and your mental breakthrough will come soon
    Posted by Talon
    There you go 'Maf'  "Talon" has hit the nail on the head,   ''also develop you own style" !    Nice one 'Talon"
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