Standard NL10 fold

rancid

yay/nay

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
allybungle	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£12.93
SARKEE	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£7.99
	Your hole cards	J 10
raggy94	Fold
rancid	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£10.54
Slider73	Fold
allybungle	Call		£0.25	£0.70	£12.68
SARKEE	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£7.79
Flop
		9 6 10
allybungle	Check
SARKEE	Check
rancid	Bet		£0.68	£1.58	£9.86
allybungle	Fold
SARKEE	Call		£0.68	£2.26	£7.11
Turn
		Q
SARKEE	Check
rancid	Bet		£1.50	£3.76	£8.36
SARKEE	Call		£1.50	£5.26	£5.61
River
		4
SARKEE	All-in		£5.61	£10.87	£0.00
rancid

BorinLoner

Nah, I'm not folding. With the Jack, Queen and Ten of spades out, we basically have to put him on Ax or Kx of spades. That's a pretty narrow range of hands really. We've got the third nuts and this all-in is what we were hoping for. Get your chips in and feel stupid if you're beat... It's not stupid though.

Sets, bluffs and lower flushes are in his range as much as the two hands that beat you. Unless you have reads that he's never getting it in with less than the nuts, I think you've got to call.

splashies

Easiest call in poker clinic history!

Hope it's not a bad beat thread.

rancid

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold:

Easiest call in poker clinic history! Hope it's not a bad beat thread.
Posted by splashies

Alllllllright say what you mean fella!

Feel bad for folding now ! Seriously is anyone shoving here with worse !

easy fold right - utterly butterly standard

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold:

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold : Alllllllright say what you mean fella! Feel bad for folding now ! Seriously is anyone shoving here with worse ! easy fold right - utterly butterly standard
Posted by rancid

Yes, players will shove here with worse. Players who aren't very good, players who have a set/two-pair and just don't believe you. Players with lower flushes that think you have a set/two-pair or a hand you can't fold.

What's your image like? Do they think you're a super-tight rock? Are the other players even good enough to think about your image?

IDONKCALLU

lol y u post this u know its a fold only 2 hands beat ya im snapping this of from snapsville nears donksville near donkstown 

rancid

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold:

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold : Yes, players will shove here with worse. Players who aren't very good, players who have a set/two-pair and just don't believe you. Players with lower flushes that think you have a set/two-pair or a hand you can't fold. What's your image like? Do they think you're a super-tight rock? Are the other players even good enough to think about your image?
Posted by BorinLoner

I hear ya loud and clear, I kinda think that random bads are infact bad enough to shove here with better and give us an easy fold
It's never a bluff! So it's pretty dam polarised, why are they shouting at me to fold ?
Seriously who bombs river without better ?

YOUNG_GUN

Snap call for me if he has u beat ul never folding here 

YOUNG_GUN

update i think alot worse calls here, your overthinking nl10 imo 

scotty77

Why play a 2 spade hand when you match them up with 3 more spades?

Would you open JTo in this scenario then?

rancid

Maybe I have wasted your time somewhat -
I kinda worked out now why oppo sticks all the chips in my face, doesn't know how to play it any other way
At least it's helped think about life and why randoms bads do this :S
Maybe oppo thought it would look bluffy mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

SARKEE	All-in		£5.61	£10.87	£0.00
rancid	Call		£5.61	£16.48	£2.75
SARKEE	Show	A 5
rancid	Show	J 10
SARKEE	Win	Flush to the Ace	£15.24		£15.24

rancid

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold:

update i think alot worse calls here, your overthinking nl10 imo 
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Just trying to understand what's going on inside oppo's head

IDONKCALLU

results dnt matter longterm over 100 times your winning here like 80 per cent of the time my last post was  foldi meant u cant fold its snap call from snapsville 

YOUNG_GUN

Obv just make a note on the villain how they play the nut flush draw.. I think long term you should be winning here alot of the time for it to be profitable, does seem weird them shoving the river? but i still think there are plenty of hands we beat which turn up here @ nl10 possibly can fold a worse flush but not J high. 

Its very opponent specific normally but vs a random this is an easy call for just over 50 bigs again if you were deeper or some reads it can be a fold .. ifs and buts  

Dudeskin8

If I play JT spades preflop one thing I'd like to see is 3 more spades on the board so why then would I bloody fold? lol 

If this is first time you've EVER seen oppo do this just make note for next time it comes up, if this has happened previously you only have yourself to blame, although even then I'm probz still not folding lol

grantorino

call ainec without very good reads

yes sometimes you will be beat

LadyFingrs

Be honest.

This belongs in BBV.

simonnatur

ALWAYS snap calling, make note and move on.   You say shove chips in yer face, but river shove is only slightly over pot size bet.

Even with note on this player, still can't see how we can fold if the identical situation comes up in future - due to stack sizes 

rancid

In Response to Re: Standard NL10 fold:

ALWAYS snap calling, make note and move on.   You say shove chips in yer face, but river shove is only slightly over pot size bet. Even with note on this player, still can't see how we can fold if the identical situation comes up in future - due to stack sizes 
Posted by simonnatur

Ok Ok what can we learn from this hand

not a lot. never  folding and yeah it's not really bombing :S

AMYBR

Only read OP, am never folding here.

Think oppe will show up very weak (relative to our hand), strong (but not strong enough :P) and with air plenty here (given river line)

I dont really get the line from him tho tbh, I think he is very lucky that you have a hand to call river with as played.  He potentially loses so much value if 4th spade peels