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Do i call this turn re raise?

edited May 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Oppo been involved in a few pots,

Was the bet sizing ok and do i call/ re re raise/ go all in/ fold?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
JJs1927 Small blind  20.00 20.00 9450.00
martin111 Big blind  40.00 60.00 2660.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
   
Telecontar Fold     
davelufc Raise  120.00 180.00 4132.50
Dazler Fold     
oliver1971 Call  120.00 300.00 4285.00
djblacke04 Fold     
FLASHJONNY Fold     
Donut64 Fold     
bluebir708 Fold     
JJs1927 Fold     
martin111 Call  80.00 380.00 2580.00
Flop
  
  • 3
  • J
  • A
   
martin111 Check     
davelufc Bet  190.00 570.00 3942.50
oliver1971 Fold     
martin111 Call  190.00 760.00 2390.00
Turn
  
  • 2
   
martin111 Check     
davelufc Bet  570.00 1330.00 3372.50
martin111 Raise  1140.00 2470.00 1250.00
davelufc      ?

Comments

  • edited May 2012

    No real issue with the best up to turn. At the turn when you get reraised a call is the one thing you can remvoe as a question. Villian has already announced he is all in just hasn't pushed his chip stack in. He only has a little of 1k left and no way I can see him folding now with a reraise at turn.

    As for fold or shove. Well think some of that comes down to how much you have seen of the pots you say he was playing plenty of. See any of them? Was he showing to be fishy in hand selection that might give you a clue he is showing up with a weaker ace here? If not then it depends on level a bit, as if player isn't uber great then i'd consider a fold maybe, as a turn raise is often super strong and often a pair won't win the hand. Maybe he does this with a bunch of weaker aces, but more often if his ace is weak he will want to get to a cheap showdown. Most of me says I'd likely end up shoving and regreting it when the cards get turned over.

    Still that all said what game type we in here? DYM, SNG, MTT? Good to say. Fact he has pretty much pot commited himself think you're beat by something like AJ or maybe even A2 given turn reraise, but I'd think if it was MTT I might struggle to fold if I've seen him playing a lot of hands, which means he could well have a weak ace,.

  • edited May 2012
    It was a £3 deepstack mtt which is made up mainly of forum regs and team players, the standard of play is very good.

    Oppo did seem fishy which made me wonder if the turn had got him there.

    This is  level 5 and oppo has already lost nearly half of the 5000 starting stack.
  • edited May 2012
    bet flop bigger

    meh prob fold now
  • edited May 2012
    On that board which is pretty dry rainbow with no obvious straight draws I'd say he almost always has made hands here and he's also done the awful minraise which from experiance often signals a decent hand certainly better than TPTK, and of course he also leaves himself just over 1k behind.

    Got to be fold. 
  • edited May 2012
    easy to say fold as we not playing this hand i can say fold but its tptk if i was in this tourney i be calling or going all in here i think a fair amount of players would do the same a bad opponents could easily do this with a q a 10 even a 5 top pair and str8 draw so easy to for any 1 to say fold i think id shove tho 
  • edited May 2012
    Thanks all, heres what happened, pesky blind defenders!!!!!

    Oh, and thanks for the A on the river when i`m drawing dead lolz
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    JJs1927 Small blind  20.00 20.00 9450.00
    martin111 Big blind  40.00 60.00 2660.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
       
    Telecontar Fold     
    davelufc Raise  120.00 180.00 4132.50
    Dazler Fold     
    oliver1971 Call  120.00 300.00 4285.00
    djblacke04 Fold     
    FLASHJONNY Fold     
    Donut64 Fold     
    bluebir708 Fold     
    JJs1927 Fold     
    martin111 Call  80.00 380.00 2580.00
    Flop
      
    • 3
    • J
    • A
       
    martin111 Check     
    davelufc Bet  190.00 570.00 3942.50
    oliver1971 Fold     
    martin111 Call  190.00 760.00 2390.00
    Turn
      
    • 2
       
    martin111 Check     
    davelufc Bet  570.00 1330.00 3372.50
    martin111 Raise  1140.00 2470.00 1250.00
    davelufc All-in  3372.50 5842.50 0.00
    martin111 All-in  1250.00 7092.50 0.00
    davelufc Unmatched bet  1552.50 5540.00 1552.50
    martin111 Show
    • 5
    • 4
       
    davelufc Show
    • A
    • K
       
    River
      
    • A
       
    martin111 Win Straight to the 5 5540.00  5540.00

     
  • edited May 2012
    LOL was about to put "its online so oppo always has 45" :p.

    I might make it 100 pre, just more out of habit/merge than anything else, but 120 is fine.

    Like flop sizing 190 - 270 is fine - based on reads.

    Turn:  Shoving doesnt make any sense.  We are either miles ahead still or miles behind.  If we believe that oppo calls with A10 etc then shove is fine I guess actually, but he'd have to be pretty bad (myeh but would be bad to raise turn with A10etc so likely would snap it off.  Looking again (lol) with his stacksize getting it in would be fine on shove/fold basis.

    I'd be very wary of the min c/r on turn in fairness.  May hero fold but not sure, reads as always.  But his line is strong enough to make me worry.

    UL bud, hate it when people dont even have to wait a street for their gutshots :(
  • edited May 2012
    Owch, I would have thrown something out of the window!

    At least he didn't see you out with it and you played it right :)
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