£22 BH, deep facing a cold 4bet from unknown big stack

GREGHOGG

I probably level myself into thinking he's trying to isolate the short stack, shove, and go out when he turns up with Aces.

GREGHOGG

The bigstack has just literally sat to my left a few hands ago and done nothing of note until this.  I have zero reads on him consequently so i have no idea how he got his chips.

Is a fold too tight here? Am i always to assume that a cold 4 bet is AA or KK? 

Thoughts please?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
xxxx	Small blind		150.00	150.00	58081.25
launder	Big blind		300.00	450.00	14037.92
	Your hole cards	Q Q
smartca627	Raise		600.00	1050.00	3927.50
vasilyev11	Fold
gb2408	Fold
GREGHOGG	Raise		1500.00	2550.00	21970.00
xxxx	Raise		4950.00	7500.00	53131.25

KAM99

Funny pingu's post wasn't ther when I was about to type this, but he has same thinking as me. This could easy be a big stack putting a  medium stack in a bad spot while trying to isolate the shorty, and more so with it being a BH. Did the short stack go all in before you acted?

So think on lot of occasions cold 4bet pre would really polarise his range its possible its not on this occasion, and like pingu I likely talk  myself into a shove and then kick myself when he turns over AA or KK. 

grantorino

3bet bigger imo (EDIT: ignore, wasnt paying proper attention to stacks)

Doubt its a squeeze with air when he makes it so big and a shorty in the hand, but can be isolating with worse or just a spewtard enough to make it a call imo. Peole flat here with KK+ sometimes too, esp as betting is reopened if shorty jams

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: £22 BH, deep facing a cold 4bet from unknown big stack:

Funny pingu's post wasn't ther when I was about to type this, but he has same thinking as me. This could easy be a big stack putting a  medium stack in a bad spot while trying to isolate the shorty, and more so with it being a BH. Did the short stack go all in before you acted? So think on lot of occasions cold 4bet pre would really polarise his range its possible its not on this occasion, and like pingu I likely talk  myself into a shove and then kick myself when he turns over AA or KK. 
Posted by KAM99

The shortstack folded

I also considered jamming obv and thinking he was trying to isolate the shortie/play back at me. But without reads i was in a tough spot. So i decided to fold until i knew more about him.

I considered flatting but again when he fires out on the flop ive still got the same decision, and less chips behind to help me. Ive either gotta go with the hand or not imo.

I do detest folding QQ in a BH tho. I wanted to press All in.

IDONKCALLU

all in if he has kk or aa so be it i think he just wants another bounty so isolating small stack all in for me 

scotty77

even tho I never ever fold here....cold 4s are so so uncommon on Sky that I don't even think they turn up with JJ/AQs here.  like AK only hand we are beating.

I don't mind the fold....I wouldn't tell anyone about it tho :P