Mistake on turn?

Arteta4

Hi all,

Was this a mistake to check on the turn.
No real reads at this stage, but I know v1 was the loosest at the table.
Checked for pot control and was aware v1 could have had a better kicker.

Wished I had jammed but in the lon-run would this be a decent play?


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceneluckSmall blind £0.10£0.10£26.77v1Big blind £0.20£0.30£36.10 Your hole cardsJQ   painy12Call £0.20£0.50£34.97Arteta4Raise £0.80£1.30£20.08yidarmy747Call £0.80£2.10£11.12UltracatCall £0.80£2.90£49.05neluckCall £0.70£3.60£26.07v1Call £0.60£4.20£35.50painy12Call £0.60£4.80£34.37Flop  5Q7   neluckBet £0.80£5.60£25.27v1Call £0.80£6.40£34.70painy12Fold    Arteta4Raise £3.20£9.60£16.88yidarmy747Fold    UltracatFold    neluckFold    v1Call £2.40£12.00£32.30Turn  4   v1Check    Arteta4Check    River  6   v1Bet £6.00£18.00£26.30Arteta4Call £6.00£24.00£10.88v1Show37   Arteta4MuckJQ   v1WinStraight to the 7£22.80 £49.10

Dudeskin8

When you raise flop is it for value? If you don't think worse calls you should probably just flat IP as it keeps worse hand in.

Turn don't mind check behind for pot control although could bet for value against FD's and possible worse Q's even other SD's.

River really bad card with 4 to a straight on board so think you can fold here as his bet also looks valuey, you also don't beat much apart from worse Q's and they would usually check and hope for showdown.

jakally

Yeah, betting the turn is the best line.

You are most often against draws here (one of which got ther, 68). Against passive players, there is little benefit to checking the turn, and hoping they bluff the river.

River is probably a fold - so many hands have now made 2 pairs / straights, and someone who has called all other streets, suddenly wants to jam 30BB's into the pot.

Raising the flop is fine - if the lead was bigger (over half pot) then a call is best, but got to raise as it's such a small bet.

grantorino

Bet turn

River prob fold

AMYBR

Grim, oppo calls bet and raise on flop w/ gutshot lol

Dont hate flop raise, think pleny worse + draws come along.  Have to be prepared to GII with sizing though with this line.

I cant find a reason not to bet turn, since we raised flop tbh.  Could argue PC but dont really like it on board this uber wet thats saw action from most seats pre.

Given that oppo has only slightly more than pot behind I just make a committing bet @ turn.

UL

Joshlarr

In position, as you were I think the best thing would have been a bet on the turn. Not so much so that you'd be devistated if you lost the hand, just enough to try and push the villain away. However, it could be argued that after putting in around a quarter of his stack he was willing to take it further so that could have just resulted in a greater loss.

Arteta4

In Response to Re: Mistake on turn?:

When you raise flop is it for value? If you don't think worse calls you should probably just flat IP as it keeps worse hand in. Turn don't mind check behind for pot control although could bet for value against FD's and possible worse Q's even other SD's. River really bad card with 4 to a straight on board so think you can fold here as his bet also looks valuey, you also don't beat much apart from worse Q's and they would usually check and hope for showdown.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Thanks for the feedback.

Raise on flop was to find out where I was with the hope he would then check the turn to give me a choice to bet/check behind.

Called river in the hope he had a missed flush draw.

DrRunGood

you should have bet turn but to be honest wouldnt make diff with this player i mean he is calling you with 73 so same outcome but in genral bet turn is what i would do