NL20 - AK in the blinds

rancid

facing btn 3 bet

what you guys think

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rancid	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£17.94
ste1961m16	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£7.80
	Your hole cards	K A
jim310831	Fold
donkeyplop	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£18.80
BENDOG40	Fold
1267	Raise		£1.80	£2.70	£57.87
rancid          ?

AMYBR

obv can only 4bet to GII, 4bet going to be close to 30>% of your stack.  I dont really like a flat tho

Been going over my HH and AK is just massively my biggest losing hand online/live in cash, so being toying with my lines also.

Dudeskin8

Really depends on your reads, has first raiser been very active and can second raiser isolate on the btn with weaker range or are both playing pretty ABC, particulary 3better?

Any raise you make has to be for value as you can't then fold so do you also think they can shove on you light or against cold 4bet they only get it in with strong hands?

Flatting isn't an option IMO but folding wouldn't be awful either given the right reads. 

pryce6

Go to 5.20ish, don't fold after.

percival09

I don't mind 4b or fold with specific reads

1267

Whats hand number ?  i wanna see what happened  lol.   I'm guessing i had 10 8 suited or something.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL20 - AK in the blinds:

Whats hand number ?  i wanna see what happened  lol.   I'm guessing i had 10 8 suited or something.
Posted by 1267

Hand History #518292061 (00:41 12/05/2012)

hihi

liamboi11

yeah 4-bet to £5.60 to £6.40 something like and what others say dont fold after the 4 bet imo

1267

ahh , i run good.

rancid

In Response to Re: NL20 - AK in the blinds:

ahh , i run good.
Posted by 1267

yeah u did from the moment you joined the table ! )

KAM99

Can't say I'd usually give any real credit to a button 3bet preflop (level and player dependant), as they could have any old rubbish and do that. I also hate AK, as it can be a huge money sink for me, but really the right option is to 4bet. Certainly its either that or fold as call is rubbish OOP.

Guessing by comments you lost the hand, but don't thik that changes how to play it, just sucks if you playing it against someone ona a heater, as they rarely seem to miss the board when on one.

DrRunGood

id raise to bout £6 and most time you will see fold

alot counts on you read and history with player if hes an absolute rock id fold.

pod1

fold, ace high innit

andybeth

To a button 3 bet, I 4 bet/get it in. Way too tight to fold here against a button 3-bet imo.

donkeyplop

I am guessing I folded

Oh Rancid you have been sat out on my table for the last 2 hours and you are still sat there!!!

Must be some technical error!!

grantorino

Why is everyone 4b so big?

Why is flatting not an option? Not saying its best but it seems better than folding to me