awful tournament player in action

percival09

I WAS IN SUCH A COMFORTABLE POSITION! so annoying

percival09

PBKR	Small blind		500.00	500.00	16060.00
chriscardy	Big blind		1000.00	1500.00	16245.28
	Your hole cards	5 5
bar4004	Fold
TommyD	Fold
LOL_RAISE	Fold
percival09	Raise		2000.00	3500.00	28341.27
PBKR	All-in		16060.00	19560.00	0.00
chriscardy	Fold
percival09	Call		14560.00	34120.00	13781.27
PBKR	Show	7 7
percival09	Show	5 5
Flop
		Q 6 J
Turn
		2
River
		A
PBKR	Win	Pair of 7s	34120.00		34120.00

I just want to reassure myself that this was the worst call EVER!

I've been playing very active, raising a lot of btns and esp villains bb A LOT! I recently 4b shoved his 3b w/ JQo and he folded. Basically there's no way he'd believe my btn raise - so knowing that, does it make this a call?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't - even when it happened I KNEW it's a clear fold - i'm just making sure i'm correct.

Anything like A7+ is a call but this is a race so often at best - and for half of my stack surely that isn't ok

it's from the primo with about 25 left

unknown_username

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

I WAS IN SUCH A COMFORTABLE POSITION! so annoying
Posted by percival09

Yeah it's pretty bad, even with the top heavy payout structures I'd still wait for a better spot.

Oh and if you're going to call the shove anyway, you might as well ship from the button yourself.

The_Don90

BTN v Blinds pretty standard imo dynamic alwyas weird in those sitautions.

Looking at both blind stacks though, i just open ship

percival09

also what influenced my call was the fact that sky's pay out structure is pre-historic and I woudn't have made any more money until like 10th so I thought FI

The_Don90

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

also what influenced my call was the fact that sky's pay out structure is pre-historic and I woudn't have made any more money until like 10th so I thought FI
Posted by percival09

its the same on all sites mate, payout is standard, you wouldnt believe hw good we get it on sky.

But thats why you have to play FTW

percival09

no it's not - on both other sites I play on it's usually like:

30-21 £50 (example)

20-17 £65

16-14  £75

13-11  £95

then if it's a 10 seated final table ......

and each has a higher payout!

basically what I'm getting at, Sky's payout structurebasically means the payout's are so similar from 30th > 10th. it's bs

percival09

sky's is:

30-21

20-10

then regular increases

or maybe that's because it's 6max. meh doesn't really matter

The_Don90

percival im going to give you a a random stars tourny payout as soon as i can find one we can compare. next tourny i can open a lobby for without gettung lucky searching a random name will have a prixepoll avalible est of 12.05 will load the top 50.

percival09

I don't play on stars atm, but I'm pretty sure they have the same structure as what i just said

percival09

stars 9 seater:

27-19

18-16

15-13

12-10

9 onwards

percival09

stars 6 seater:

24-19

18-13

12-10

9-7

6 onwars

the fact 20th gets the same as 10th on sky is definitely a joke

The_Don90

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

stars 6 seater: 24-19 18-13 12-10 9-7 6 onwars the fact 20th gets the same as 10th on sky is definitely a joke
Posted by percival09

comparrassions on runners and buy ins please.

Wnt let my copy n paste a tourny lobby

LOL_RAISE

in primo last night 30th was £84  10th was £113

Dudeskin8

Yeah raise folding vs those stacks would be pretty bad imo.

Open shove is good as gives most FE and even if called are flipping most times.

percival09

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

in primo last night 30th was £84  10th was £113
Posted by LOL_RAISE

well I'd still prefer if they changed the structure - there's a big difference in finishing 11th and 19th/20th imo

ps. where did you finish?

percival09

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

Yeah raise folding vs those stacks would be pretty bad imo. Open shove is good as gives most FE and even if called are flipping most times.
Posted by Dudeskin8

as played, you think a call is def right?

I thought it was bad because I'm calling for half of my stack when I'm very comfortable with 30k

percival09

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action : comparrassions on runners and buy ins please. Wnt let my copy n paste a tourny lobby
Posted by The_Don90

meh, it doesn't really matter, I'm sure you're right ... but I just like to complain when I lose

The_Don90

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action : meh, it doesn't really matter, I'm sure you're right ... but I just like to complain when I lose
Posted by percival09

haha we all do.

its probably simiaar tbh. the issue with stars i think if you say u cash in 1 in 10 tournys to break even over those 10 torunys u gta be in top 1% of field.

Prob same with sky tbh

Edited cuz i realised i made a typo

LOL_RAISE

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action:

In Response to Re: awful tournament player in action : well I'd still prefer if they changed the structure - there's a big difference in finishing 11th and 19th/20th imo ps. where did you finish?
Posted by percival09

yeah that was supposed to show how small the changes was in 20places, 9th was then like 230 i think.

i busted about 3hands after you i think

percival09

oh, you were on my side lol

def needs changing at some point 

unknown_username

Hi Percival
I think my hand beats yours for silly play (re "Percival09....." in  poker clinict")
For the stack sizes it seems a big chance to take for a a flip at best possibly, IMO.
Mine was worse though i'm not so proud to say...What do you think?

Dudeskin8

Yeah call defo right and at least it allows them a bit more room to shove wider thinking you might fold but for me shoving is better as it folds out many hands where you're racing like A6/7/8/9 even T plus most Kings, also he might even fold some pairs like 77 for example when having to call off 16bbs without any FE but that depends how wide you've been playing overall. 

percival09

I've been playing v.wide

villain knows it as well, he saw my K3s at showdown bvb lol