HU shuffle, level 1. Hero/spew jam river?

DOHHHHHHH

Opponent is a very solid MTT player on sky and has been for ages now.

I've played with him a few times, and he seems to always show up with the goods at showdown.
Hero calling him would normally end in tears, but he can be taken off hands in the right circumstances.


This is heads up though, so I don't think I can rely on those reads, especially considering his line in this hand.
He's an in-experienced HU player to my knowledge.

It's early doors, but the flop and turn action suggests he's got a 9.

I'm already preparing the river bullet, probably an overbet, to finish the story and convince him I have an ace.

But the river is a bad card, and I can't really rule out him having an ace. He might just have been worried about his kicker, and sees his trips as the green light to go ahead and value bet it.

Is he turning his hand in to a bluff (not consciously) very often? Has he just set it up perfectly for me to fist pump ship the lot? Knowing he can fold?

He will probably know me as a lag winning player at low stakes.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DOHHHHHHH	Small blind		10.00	10.00	2880.00
xxx	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2090.00
	Your hole cards	Q 7
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		40.00	70.00	2840.00
xxx	Call		30.00	100.00	2060.00
Flop
		A 9 5
xxx	Bet		50.00	150.00	2010.00
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		145.00	295.00	2695.00
xxx	Call		95.00	390.00	1915.00
Turn
		3
xxx	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		295.00	685.00	2400.00
xxx	Call		295.00	980.00	1620.00
River
		A
xxx	Bet		490.00	1470.00	1130.00
DOHHHHHHH

gracie24

You are beaten by almost any two cards-easy fold for me.

simonnatur

Kudos to you if you shove and win with Q hi, but dont think its happening. dont think you have any fold equity on river.

Seems that your hu experience/thinking could easily be working against you versus player who might be inexperienced hu and therefore playing a lot tighter than you expect . I expect his river bet to be pure value 95% of time.

Basically dont understand putting tourney on the line this early when you should be using your experience/edge over as many hands as possible?

IDONKCALLU

is it me or u do alot of meta game dohhh or leveling q 7 im just folding pre tbh with ya i know its heads up but its a really bad hand i know your a good heads up player but i think u do complicate yaself at times lol play standard dohhhhhhhhh way and not meta game dnt think of the player u are against play ya normal game

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: HU shuffle, level 1. Hero/spew jam river?:

is it me or u do alot of meta game dohhh or leveling q 7 im just folding pre tbh with ya i know its heads up but its a really bad hand i know your a good heads up player but i think u do complicate yaself at times lol play standard dohhhhhhhhh way and not meta game dnt think of the player u are against play ya normal game
Posted by IDONKCALLU

U know this is a HU game idcu?

The_Don90

In reply to IDC

HU is almost 100% reads in m experiance well some run good too. If you can pick up on your opponents patterns everything becomes so much easier. I guess the same as always but HU its even more important.


Regards to had, ive spoke to JJ about who the oppo is , once im called on flop i give up.

IDONKCALLU

yeah i know its heads up and 90 per cent of time u should be raising the button but q 7 is a no no for me connectors or gap connectors yeah t aswell be 2 7 its a fold for me q 7 doesnt post well post flop unless u get lucky might aswell be 2 7 your the hu expert so im sure ya know what ya doing but i wouldnt play q 7 in any hu structure

BorinLoner

Raising only 90% of your buttons in HU play is too low in my opinion. Q7 is the average hand anyway and is significantly better than 72... More to the point, the button is the biggest weapon in HU play and I don't care what my hand is: when I have the button, I'm raising.

I can see this going either way. He could certainly have an Ace or better here and be disguising it as a 9 on the flop and turn. On the river, though, he leads for value. That depends on him being a wily player but if he's not then his line, which looks like a 9, could actually be a 9... even then you've got to believe that he's going to lay-down his 9 a large majority of the time and won't feel committed or just station you.
 
Probably best just to give this up after he calls your flop raise, though the bet on the turn isn't terrible. On the river I'm not going to shove unless I think I have no edge whatsoever on this opponent in the long-term. It's a little bit gambly to shove the river, really.

I played one of these HU shuffle thingies the other day and, although it's hardly a large sample size, I'm pretty confident that 3-betting, 4-betting and 5-betting like a monkey pre-flop is the best way to go...

The_Don90

My range in HU is based preflop on averages and Q7 is average. Depending on opponent ill nit up or loosen up, so i dnt have a set range, but v an relitive unknown im looking at averages until im sure. V an opponent like this one dohhh is playing im widening my range simply because i know his game. (now that ive saifd tht ill be AA+ v him lol)

Anyways i think folding Q7 on the BTN consistantly is too nitty.

AMYBR

Myeh know what your trying to do and its fine.

Just boils down to any hand that leads & calls a raise on flop has no reason to fold river (less so even).  Seems to obv be in c/c mode with a wide variety of better hands,