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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited May 2012
    If Sky were to go global it would be the one site that has the chance of competiting with the 'big' site.  However that 'big' site still operates in many areas where the legality of online poker is still very much grey.

    As a player the main thing about Sky is that I trust it 100pc with funds.  The backing of the Sky brand is massive.


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  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    Je pense c'est incroyable jouer avec Sky! Mais si les autre pays ecrit sur le forum je ne parle pas les autres langues  at comprende pas les posts! lol
    Posted by DUNMIDOSH
    Only speak english at the tables / on the forum please :)
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    In Response to Re: Something to debate... : I know i was light humour back, re-reading comes across slightly snappy. However even if you in Aberdeen Glasgow is quite a trip. Hense why i rekon we need more. Id actually prefer to see an SPT in Genting Edinburgh i know im biased because its my local casino but its also one of the best run ive been in. Could easily hold 150 players with cash games, on one floor and disabled accsess via elevators. Free Parking for stays less than 6 hours too. Ofc what many do is during a break drive their car in and out lol. More Events might taint a title to those who can afford to play them all but im guessing these wouldbe the best players anyways. Also as a small suggestion regards to SPT maybe for the £220 events add an extra sat level to make them all 1 in 5. This would mean they would fill quicker maybe adding an Extra day 1 on a Friday. Im sure many would play the friday Day 1A double prizepool, doubles the potential for numbers etc. Also more rake for sky ;)
    Posted by The_Don90
    The SPTs are massive in cost.  Having more than there currently are would just not be workable.  

    Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable.

    I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT.  Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there.  I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e.

    Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people.  I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size.

    DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker.


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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    In Response to Re: Something to debate... : The SPTs are massive in cost.  Having more than there currently are would just not be workable.   Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable. I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT.  Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there.  I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e. Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people.  I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size. DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker.
    Posted by scotty77
    Is that why my local Genting Casino has a poster outside saying " Texas Holdem Thursday nights" That's really going to dent the market
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    In Response to Re: Something to debate... : The SPTs are massive in cost.  Having more than there currently are would just not be workable.   Also there is a lot of planning and prep that goes behind the scenes to make sure every event runs as smooth as possible, adding venues to this will again not be workable. I would also imagine that any Genting venue would be a big no no for an SPT.  Genting are really going for the poker market and they wouldn't want one of their biggest online rivals to rock up and play an event there.  I would imagine that Sky would gladly go there tho as I personally can't see an iPoker based site being any kind of real threat to Sky but w/e. Finding venues that are up to standard is extremely difficult in the whole of the UK, and I hear that it is harder to find in Scotland as there just aren't any casinos there who can host an event for 150 people.  I mean I live in very close to London and there are only maybe 3 casinos there which can hold an SPT IMO (Aspers Stratford, The Vic and maybe the Mint)...and just because the casinos have the capacity doesn't mean that they are fit to run an event of that size. DTD and the G Luton really do put the rest of the UK casinos to shame when it comes to live poker.
    Posted by scotty77
    Being honest i know its an expense but one i thought could have been covered.

    Regards to Genting, i didnt realise that Genting had affiliations with an ipoker site, although i did know they had their own series but then so does Grosviner and we use them. Genting was one that i know met skys requirements of 150 people, disabled accsess, one floor (the ones i know of)

    Of the ones youve mentioned ive never been to Luton. I was at DTD of that other event weve spoke of and obviously thats not normal running capacity. However id recommend Genting if your ever up this way mate, the monday night tourny inparticualar is very popular, as far as i know the biggest casino game in Scotland.

    I know the issues with Scottish casinos, i think thats obvious when sky cut a Scottish leg for a year and that other tour are using Hotels. Disappointing really but then when i compare the population to poker players here i guess it just wouldnt be possible for anything like DTD to run profitably this side of the Border.

    Thanks for a constructive reply though mate,
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  • lennyhlennyh
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    Obv accessibility.  Would I prefer to play in a bigger community (ie more money/bigger guarentees/varied game) obv yes.  But the experience of online is quite intangible/robotic to begin with.  So it is refreshing to have a tighter community of people. Also higher likelyhood of retention in the game.  You can spew off w/e and know that, in all likelyhood, the money is not too far away.  Factor in a little of the economy at home aswell. Off the back of sky being a UK poker site, this forum and the channel have grown.  That can really only be because of the more immediate/accessible nature of the site. I've moved my roll (lol and gone broke/rebuilt) on many sites.  I have never felt a passing intrest in them personally, they are just a medium to play.  But Sky does somehow get you invested on a personal level.  This coming from someone who rarely plays on here anymore :p  (but that is simply down to other issues.)
    Posted by AMYBR
    You said this so much more eloquently than i ever could,great post
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited May 2012
    Ok im going to make a debate here that may just ignite alot of fire and result in a whole lot of trouble for me.

    Firstly i said earlier sky always listens to its customers. Recent events have made me difficult for me to now believe this is true.

    Ill start with lots of requests. Colour coded notes and Auto top up and Antes have taken i dont know how long to come despite countless requests. And these things will atteact more players, more players = more games, more games = more rake, more rake = more profits. Well you get the picture.

    Then comes Short Shove tables, a theory which has alredy failed elsewhere. However i get why sky have tried it. 

    Then today and the one im really going to want to discuss. I wasnt aware until a thread came up about the 30p dyms, now im sorry if im daft here and im hoping some dym players will confirm this. Sky state they have cancelled the 30p dyms because not enough run. Now i know my partner plays these because she just just learning.  This is a great level for people to learn to play poker and become better players. The rake does make them hard to beat but thats all part of low stakes poker we came to accept that. However this i feel is a complete outrage. I dont imagine sky will post figures bt seriously how many £220/£110 dyms run per day??


    Rant over.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    In Response to Re: Something to debate... : You said this so much more eloquently than i ever could,great post
    Posted by lennyh
    why ty :p
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  • 12671267
    edited May 2012
    If Sky Poker ever changed from £  pound sterling, i feel suicide rates would go up.

    but for me, the more players the merrier ...
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  • cleansweepcleansweep
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    In Response to Re: Something to debate... : Only speak english at the tables / on the forum please :)
    Posted by Sky_Poker
    lol
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  • oynutteroynutter
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Something you are allowed to debate...:
    Hi everyone One of the things that Sky Poker is known for is a strong UK community of players. We do have players from elsewhere but mainly we are a UK poker site. We'd be interested to see your thoughts on the pro's and cons's of this please. What's good and bad about this? Thanks Sky Poker
    Posted by Sky_Poker
    FYP
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  • FINSFINS
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Something to debate...:
    If Sky Poker ever changed from £  pound sterling, i feel suicide rates would go up. but for me, the more players the merrier ...
    Posted by 1267


                   THIS..
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  • devonfish5devonfish5
    edited May 2012
    the more the better imo,
    as already mentioned,more players=more money,everyone,s a winner.
    i play cash else where and tbh i have found it quite easy taking those foreigners dollars.
    "bring it on"
    (*  *)
       "
       ^
    devon
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2012
    God questo. Imust sy tat at te moment,  like th wy it is now.Would the cmmuniyt suffer? Woud the abuse get worse? Would the friendliness reduce in the chat box?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2012
    See the last post as to why I think it's a bad idea... 

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3a530cc863-96c3-4292-bc22-ec7b387ed019&plckCurrentPage=2
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited May 2012
    I do think that Sky would be perfect to try and crack the US market and I hope they have someone looking into it.

    I would assume that there are people higher up at the Sky group who would have contacts with some US lobbyists which could help.

    The power of the Sky brand and more importantly the fact that Sky have always complied with local laws and legislation with regards to online poker is so much massively in their favour...they have never done anything wrong with regards to the US, unlike various of the companies who are trying to get a US licence....plus the financial backing of the overall company of Sky probably equates to every other major poker site COMBINED.

    One of the most important things is how Sky always promotes responsible gaming too.

    Someone get on the case!  I'll be more than happy to do some shows in the USA should you open a US Channel :)
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