Practice makes perfect with a little help from the poker clinic

DTWBANDIT

    Earlier today i posted a hand in the Clinic where i should of re-raised on the river, i know, very nitty. But

Since getting advice from greghogg / eyeman & other replies on earlier Thread on Re-Raising for Value (cash tables) i've been putting it into practice on 1 nl10 table while playing Forum DTD Tonight. Here are 2 hands, Other guy had been playing loose since joining the table on hand 1.

       

chelsea2	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£16.73
allison17	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£4.02
	Your hole cards	8 8
potless40	Fold
xxx	Raise		£1.00	£1.15	£11.13
DTWBANDIT	Call		£1.00	£2.15	£36.52
8810171405	Fold
chelsea2	Call		£0.95	£3.10	£15.78
allison17	Fold
Flop
		3 10 A
chelsea2	Check
xxx	Bet		£1.10	£4.20	£10.03
DTWBANDIT	Call		£1.10	£5.30	£35.42
chelsea2	Fold
Turn
		8
xxx	Bet		£1.80	£7.10	£8.23
DTWBANDIT	Raise		£5.90	£13.00	£29.52
xxx	Raise		£8.20	£21.20	£0.03
DTWBANDIT	Raise		£8.20	£29.40	£21.32
xxx	All-in		£0.03	£29.43	£0.00
DTWBANDIT	Unmatched bet		£4.07	£25.36	£25.39
xxx	Show	3 A
DTWBANDIT	Show	8 8
River
		5
DTWBANDIT	Win	Three 8s	£23.96		£49.35

       
      

DTWBANDIT

   Hand 2.

   

frankban09	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£4.89
shad91990	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£5.67
	Your hole cards	J Q
JuliusAA	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£6.41
lisboner	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£4.90
blue1970	Fold
DTWBANDIT	Call		£0.10	£0.45	£19.30
frankban09	Call		£0.05	£0.50	£4.84
shad91990	Check
Flop
		9 8 10
frankban09	Check
shad91990	Check
JuliusAA	Bet		£0.38	£0.88	£6.03
lisboner	Call		£0.38	£1.26	£4.52
DTWBANDIT	Call		£0.38	£1.64	£18.92
frankban09	Call		£0.38	£2.02	£4.46
shad91990	Call		£0.38	£2.40	£5.29
Turn
		5
frankban09	Check
shad91990	Check
JuliusAA	Bet		£1.80	£4.20	£4.23
lisboner	Fold
DTWBANDIT	Raise		£5.60	£9.80	£13.32
frankban09	Fold
shad91990	Fold
JuliusAA	All-in		£4.23	£14.03	£0.00
DTWBANDIT	Call		£0.43	£14.46	£12.89
JuliusAA	Show	Q 10
DTWBANDIT	Show	J Q
River
		2
DTWBANDIT	Win	Straight to the Queen	£13.37		£26.26

Dudeskin8

1. Don't like call pre if it's purely for set-mining as implied odds aren't great. His flop bet is small but think you gotta fold here with like 2 outs, turn great but don't think you should be getting there myself.

2. Prefer raise when on the button, raise flop for value as bound to be called multi-way, turn fine.

KAM99

1. Same as dudeskin. Generally this isn't a good call preflop to such a big raise unless you think that 88 is good I guess, but for set farming its not great due to fact you'd be having to stack someone on everytime you hit a set to make this pay off long tem.

2. Same. I dont like just call but raise if I'm going to play and give my hand some weight with the postion. And raising flop is fine too with that many callers.

Worked out in both cases, but hand one in particular I'm not sure you would want to play like that to often.

AMYBR

I mean would be hard to do too much wrong in these hands surely.

We can argue hand 1 could be perceived as spewy, but we call behind on 1 street and punish 2 with the bink (£1.1 bhind £9 ahead)

Hand 2.  its a miracle you get action tbf

Pokers easy when we cooler our oppos and flop the nuts tho .

Not sure these hands are the best representation.

Nice though

DTWBANDIT

  I agree Hand 1 could be seen as a bad call, but on many previous hands the guy had done same raise with air, (caught him at it b4), so i thought i would have another go at him as was well stacked, tho if i hadn't hit by turn then probally am out of hand depending on bet size. If it had been a different player then i may well fold pre. I pretty much assess the table as i go along.


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KAM99

In Response to Re: Practice makes perfect with a little help from the poker clinic:

  I agree Hand 1 could be seen as a bad call, but on many previous hands the guy had done same raise with air, (caught him at it b4), so i thought i would have another go at him as was well stacked, tho if i hadn't hit by turn then probally am out of hand depending on bet size. If it had been a different player then i may well fold pre. I pretty much assess the table as i go along.   Thanks for the Feedback Folks Appreciate it  
Posted by DTWBANDIT

Its not an issue to float someone in postion, but not if the float is solely hoping to hit your 2 outer. Float someone that tends to give up if they cbet a lot but tend to shut down if they have missed. Sure, great if you hit your 2 outer as that makes life easy, but if thats the sole reason for the call then fold instead.

DTWBANDIT

In Response to Re: Practice makes perfect with a little help from the poker clinic:

In Response to Re: Practice makes perfect with a little help from the poker clinic : Its not an issue to float someone in postion, but not if the float is solely hoping to hit your 2 outer. Float someone that tends to give up if they cbet a lot but tend to shut down if they have missed. Sure, great if you hit your 2 outer as that makes life easy, but if thats the sole reason for the call then fold instead.
Posted by KAM99

 Cheers for Advive Kam much appreciated