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OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions

edited May 2012 in Poker Chat
Its like a guy who goes in a bookies always tells u there winners but never tell u how much they have lost before they won lol All i see lately is people posting there bankrolls and saying how well they have done on each session and how much they have turned it into from a small amount welldone but how do we know that u have won this amount any 1 can type numbers no 1 seems to lose on this site it seems lol all i see is i won this stated with £90 b/r and won £33 then next day i won this amount welldone 2 ya and good luck but do post losing sessions aswell or any 1 would think its abit made up lol 
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  • edited May 2012
    i like reading blogs and new forum posts but all i see is how much people win how much they win in a session and no im not jealous but any 1 can make up a winning session lol like to see hands etc how u managed to win the money in the session what have u done different in your poker style to make u a winning player etc 
  • edited May 2012
    Just human nature.  

    Most of the blogs I read on here seem to be pretty honest tho.
  • edited May 2012
    hey im not saying any 1 telling porkies scotty just like to see hands etc i like posting on poker clinic so when people post a good session post some hands aswell would be nice good luck to the people who are running well seems like every 1 is at the mo apart from me lol good luck in vegas hope ya bink a cash over there be good to see 1 of the sky players get on a tv table :)
  • edited May 2012
    Im sure if these players were lying someone with Sharkscope or similar would take great pleasure in exposing them., call me naive but the likes of Gary, Dazler, Devon etc,, I believe
  • edited May 2012
    I do understand where you are coming from - I'm the first to be sceptical about a newcomer's all conquering powers.

    But you must admit my vlv buyin was made pre-tournie - so you would get the full warts and all update.

    and then my latest post on bbv


    don't know if that link works, but my KK makes a set on the river, but the QQ makes a straight.

    sorry to use me examples, but that's what I know best

    also look at evilpingu - from hero to zero in a heartbeat (and hopefully on the way back up again)

    and Devon who steps up a level and gets smacked right back down again.

    so your criticism may be justified in some cases, but I think you'll find the regs shooting pretty straight
  • edited May 2012
    ouch ul just saw that hand  brick river please lol nice 1 on vegas sat geldy for a full buy in i mean show ya hands not just winning 1s losing 1s aswell this is how we improve are game right like scotty said on the show when he does a session looks through the losing hands not the winning 1s and how he could of played it better i mean we can all say we havin winning sessions but post hands and get feedback 
  • edited May 2012
    i don't like to post too much about success or lack of success. I record my sessions very articulately so can see my win rates, profits, hours played, etc. Which does help with focus. 
  • edited May 2012
    Who really cares?
  • edited May 2012
    swog i like the idea u set ysaelf target gives u something to focus on and keeps u on str8 n narrow not come of the rails and just go on a mad session on cash and blow the lot i understand why people do these post to set targets its to prove it can be done with hard work that u can start small and work your way up through the levels i dont know how scotty n tommy d do it how can u play 10 nl and now play 400 nl that must take a age to start from low level to work ya way up to 400nl thats where im bad with brm and think this would take me 5 years and i would say im a ok poker player but i just take shots and cba with the long grind :(
  • edited May 2012
    +1 to this.

    I know that in diaries, myself, Devonfish and GaryQQQ post regardless of results every day (unless we don't play at all), and others, like TommyD just post whenever they feel like it and not necessarily about Poker, which is fair enough. 

    I don't read many blogs elsewhere, but these tend to be updated less frequently than a forum diary thread, so obviously a winning player who blogs is more likely to have a winning week or month when they update, whereas he may win or lose on a day to day basis, so I think with these blogs, only posting wins is just a consequence of variance to a certain extent.

    Ironically, Bearlyther's diary thread was mentioned on tonight's show - Not saying he was making everything up, he could've just been on a massive heater or playing like Phil Ivey, but there were people who thought he wasn't completely honest. Anyway, he posted when he was winning, but never posted anything about "I 7bet bluffed with 89 and lost a £1k pot", which I think has tarnished his reputation in the eyes of some people in this community, so I think for diary writers out there, honesty is always the best policy.

    EDIT: Only saw IDCU's first 2 posts when I started writing this post - Agree that most of the diaries on this forum are 100% honest.
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    swog i like the idea u set ysaelf target gives u something to focus on and keeps u on str8 n narrow not come of the rails and just go on a mad session on cash and blow the lot i understand why people do these post to set targets its to prove it can be done with hard work that u can start small and work your way up through the levels i dont know how scotty n tommy d do it how can u play 10 nl and now play 400 nl that must take a age to start from low level to work ya way up to 400nl thats where im bad with brm and think this would take me 5 years and i would say im a ok poker player but i just take shots and cba with the long grind :(
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    2 years ago I was broke.  Like total broke.  27 quid total life worth.

    You just need dedication and determination.  Yes I have ran well....opportunites like being on the show and TSP are ones that I am very fortunate and grateful for however I have worked hard for them.

    My advice would be no sky vegas or sky bet. These things are fun but they are ways of an easy fix/trying to get easy money.  Nothing in life is easy and poker is no exception. BRM of 30BIs at least.

    There is so much value at the low stakes it is untrue and all it takes is discipline.  That is the key.

    Once you hit a certain figure of BR then it becomes a lot easier too.  But EVERY higher stakes reg on the site has gone thru it.  You don't suddenly get got at poker and turn upto 1knl and crush.  You learn your lessons and poker education at the low stakes.
  • edited May 2012
    Great advice tnx scotty well been playing for nearly 10 years i never learn my ego gets better of me if i run good then i dnt stay on same level i take shots and do my whole roll within few days like u say we all been there and gone bust well i banned myself on vegas for 5 years used to go on there alot like u say to try n get a quick fix say if i lose a big pot try n get it back on roullete never works  just gonna play for fun and start on from scratch i know i have the potential to be good just brm i find hard to overcome :(  
  • edited May 2012
    I really dont understand why you would moan about someone posting there successes, surely thats a good thing and if you win something thats the aim of the game and why not shout about it. I do think its more interesting for people to follow if they do post there ups as well as downs so can understand what you mean from that point. I personaly stayed away from posting when i didnt make a profit for a while because i didnt wanna bore people with the oh no another bad day, day after day after day and wanted to stay positive about where i was going. I do keep mine as honest as possible and show the good the bad and the ugly where i can but i think its personal preference to each poster. It dosnt really matter what they do in my opinion.

    I post on mine purley so i can keep track of whats happening and mainly cos ive been so bad at br management in the past it keeps myself in check and motivates me. If people wanna follow it they can and if they dont thats fine also. But i wouldnt post i lost £10 today or i won £10 today, but to a micro stakes player that is a big turning point if your grinding. I personaly like to show some interesting hands ive come across or mtt wins ect and im the first to admit i like to shout about it off the roof tops if i do well or i might have a little moan about a bad beat now and again. Its just a journey to share with like minded people which makes the forum great.

    I couldnt single out any diary that i dont like to follow there all interesting to me in there own unique ways.
  • edited May 2012
    I agree with the the majority here that most diaries are very honest, people have mentioned many like Devon, Pingu etc. I also always posts my results after every session regardless of the result, admittedly I hate having to type out the fact I've had a big loss sometimes but it's just the way it is. Would certainly not make much sense if I said my BR was £250, had a big losing session that I didn't mention, then posted up that I was £50 up the next day and said my BR was still £250...

    But yeah, people doing the diaries I think largely do it for their own benefit, so each to their own.

    By the way Scotty, did you ever get round to dipping your toe in 4NL to disprove all these silly people that say it's unbeatable?
  • edited May 2012
    Start your own diary IDCU! I guarantee it will be very popular!
  • edited May 2012
    evilpingu, devonfish and don90 diaries have all had there ups and downs contained within them and its refreshing to see them being honest about things. im sure everyone else who writes a diary takes the same stance with maybe the odd exception.

    the sky diaries, i believe, take a different route to some of the other blogs you get elsewhere online.

    im tempted to start my own diary but im not sure people want another micro stakes grinder writing about their ups and downs
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    Start your own diary IDCU! I guarantee it will be very popular!
    Posted by splashies
    Hugh-Mongoose +1 

    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions : 2 years ago I was broke.  Like total broke.  27 quid total life worth. You just need dedication and determination.  Yes I have ran well....opportunites like being on the show and TSP are ones that I am very fortunate and grateful for however I have worked hard for them. 
    Posted by scotty77

    I've seen you mention this before, on the show occasionally and on a few threads and would like to know more. Now that you're an analyst it would be interesting to read some kinda blog/article/thread about what happened before/during/and since going broke. 

    I reckon alot of people would be able to relate to the highs 'n' lows as I'd imagine all/most of it happened on Sky Poker. 
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions : 2 years ago I was broke.  Like total broke.  27 quid total life worth. You just need dedication and determination.  Yes I have ran well....opportunites like being on the show and TSP are ones that I am very fortunate and grateful for however I have worked hard for them. My advice would be no sky vegas or sky bet. These things are fun but they are ways of an easy fix/trying to get easy money.  Nothing in life is easy and poker is no exception. BRM of 30BIs at least. There is so much value at the low stakes it is untrue and all it takes is discipline.  That is the key. Once you hit a certain figure of BR then it becomes a lot easier too.  But EVERY higher stakes reg on the site has gone thru it.  You don't suddenly get got at poker and turn upto 1knl and crush.  You learn your lessons and poker education at the low stakes.
    Posted by scotty77
    Having heard you mention this and reading Pryce6's blog of late it does seem that you do need a little run good as well as obviously hard work and dedication to get to the top.

    As Dohhhhh said id love to hear what happened around this time, although i can imagine that you might mot wana disclose that.
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    evilpingu, devonfish and don90 diaries have all had there ups and downs contained within them and its refreshing to see them being honest about things. im sure everyone else who writes a diary takes the same stance with maybe the odd exception. the sky diaries, i believe, take a different route to some of the other blogs you get elsewhere online. im tempted to start my own diary but im not sure people want another micro stakes grinder writing about their ups and downs
    Posted by TINTIN
    hi tintin,
    go on m8 start it up,
    sure there would be plenty of us that will be interested,i know i will be.!!!
    :-)
    dev
  • edited May 2012
    Lambert - no I haven't managed to get to 4nl.  I've been relatively busy outside of poker and of course I have vegas coming up so when I do have some time then I'm using it on my usual tables to try and grind some extra roll.

    Dohh - I had a relatively large bankroll before my massive massive busto blowup.  Some of it happened because of poker, however it was mainly due to roulette and blackjack both at an actual casino and online.  A week or so of total and utter degeneracy and I'm glad to say that since then I haven't done anything at all on those kind of games other than the odd 20 quid at SPTs.
  • edited May 2012

    If someone is posting 100% winning sessions then it’s just a brag

    Take em with a pinch of salt

     

    I have put two diaries on here, one I achieved my target – the other I failed –

     

    It just feels better posting when you are running good )

  • edited May 2012
    no point me starting a blog who would want to read a wall of text lol my gramma is really bad plus on a down swing of over 3 weeks of not running good inc 3 bubbles in mtts :(
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    no point me starting a blog who would want to read a wall of text lol my gramma is really bad plus on a down swing of over 3 weeks of not running good inc 3 bubbles in mtts :(
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    Talk about hypocrite! lol

    You've posted saying people only ever post up their winning sessions... then basically said, 'what's the point in me doing a blog/diary cos I've been losing for a few weeks'.

    But yeah, definitely need to improve the punctuation if you start one lol.
  • edited May 2012
    You must be reading different threads to me, I see loads of players reporting losing sessions.
  • edited May 2012
    plus skint so nothing to post cest la vie lol i like reading posts not doing post intresting reading looked at tommy ds blog and nick pryce blog both intresting reading agood point tommy made in hes post that he knows some 1 that can make money in poker but cant handle the mental side of the game so gave up the game and just commentates and writes i think i can be in that category as i cant handle the mental side meaning i tilt badly bankroll management whats that i alway take shots and go bust so dnt seem the point in playing sometimes when i do get on a heater and spin as little as a £10 into £300 which i have done several times instead of playing 8nl or 10 nl i play £11  mtts and 20 nl cash on mastercash tables or 50 nl my ego gets the better of me and think i can beat people as i made such a good roi within a week then hit a brick wall woulda thought i learn how to control money by now but is hard 2002 i started where tommy is and started from scratch on small tables then build my way up to 2/4 level than had a shocking month session where i couldnt hit a thing andwhen busto so its good to see these good player tommy d ryan open up about there lifeits not all glamour its hard really hard 2 get where they are and i congratualte them on where they are now i could of been there once maybe but cant handle the downswings simple as that and hate the fact that i have to start all over again wouldtake agesto reach the 2/4 level again as the game is so much harder 1st time round took me 4 years to reach that level so with the game harder id never do it so now i just make a small deposit now n then n play for fun 
  • edited May 2012
    You are right, there are very few blogs that post when they lose. That alone is a weakness. 
  • edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: OK im gonna have a moan do people only post winning sessions:
    plus skint so nothing to post cest la vie lol i like reading posts not doing post intresting reading looked at tommy ds blog and nick pryce blog both intresting reading agood point tommy made in hes post that he knows some 1 that can make money in poker but cant handle the mental side of the game so gave up the game and just commentates and writes i think i can be in that category as i cant handle the mental side meaning i tilt badly bankroll management whats that i alway take shots and go bust so dnt seem the point in playing sometimes when i do get on a heater and spin as little as a £10 into £300 which i have done several times instead of playing 8nl or 10 nl i play £11  mtts and 20 nl cash on mastercash tables or 50 nl my ego gets the better of me and think i can beat people as i made such a good roi within a week then hit a brick wall woulda thought i learn how to control money by now but is hard 2002 i started where tommy is and started from scratch on small tables then build my way up to 2/4 level than had a shocking month session where i couldnt hit a thing andwhen busto so its good to see these good player tommy d ryan open up about there lifeits not all glamour its hard really hard 2 get where they are and i congratualte them on where they are now i could of been there once maybe but cant handle the downswings simple as that and hate the fact that i have to start all over again wouldtake agesto reach the 2/4 level again as the game is so much harder 1st time round took me 4 years to reach that level so with the game harder id never do it so now i just make a small deposit now n then n play for fun 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    Epic sentence FTW Idonk. Out of interest how can someone with your intelligence and fairly decent vocabulary and decent spelling not know how to punctuate  properly. Surely they all tie in together in English lessons when you were at school? I'm not trying to have a go at you I'm just trying to understand how it has happened?
  • edited May 2012
    school what was that flying dagg i was a naughty boy at school always expelled young and stupid more intrested in mucking about then do class work dagg always been good at spelling and alot of people think im bright when it comes to english and gramma well lets just say dont there like i said didnt do school that much 
  • edited May 2012
    I don't mean this in an offensive way but it genuinely is sometimes hard to decipher your messages and figure out what you're trying to say lol.

    Also for someone who's good at spelling, it's grammer :P lol.
  • edited May 2012
    lol paul grammer :) but hope read my wall of post earlier and made sense makes sense to me coz i typed it lol so if i done a blog no 1 would be intrested unless i got some 1 sat next to me helping me type lol 
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