Is This the Right fold??

rrickyhugg

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Jacquesb	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2260.00
sammip8508	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2125.00
	Your hole cards	10 J
spuds212	Fold
I_Will	Call		30.00	75.00	2170.00
rrickyhugg	Raise		90.00	165.00	1896.25
HotBoy447	Fold
Jacquesb	Call		75.00	240.00	2185.00
sammip8508	Fold
I_Will	Call		60.00	300.00	2110.00
Flop
		10 7 9
Jacquesb	Check
I_Will	Check
rrickyhugg	Bet		150.00	450.00	1746.25
Jacquesb	Raise		300.00	750.00	1885.00
I_Will	Call		300.00	1050.00	1810.00
rrickyhugg	Call		150.00	1200.00	1596.25
Turn
		5
Jacquesb	Bet		430.00	1630.00	1455.00
I_Will	Call		430.00	2060.00	1380.00
rrickyhugg	Fold
River
		K
Jacquesb	All-in		1455.00	3515.00	0.00
I_Will	Fold
Jacquesb	Muck
Jacquesb	Win		2060.00		2060.00
Jacquesb	Return		1455.00

This was a very strange player, I could not put him on any hands at all!! At first, with the re raise on the flop I was thinking maybe a flush draw. Then with the bet on the turn I thought maybe Q 10 or a random 2 pair that he hit defending the big blind? Let me know what you think please!!

P.s This is a re post because I did not mark it as a question and do really want some feedback about it!!
Thanks and sorry

IDONKCALLU

i would fold on the flop coule easily be up against higher kicker or even set once u called the flop raise what has changed on the turn nothing u should have a plan here what card are u happy with on the turn this is a brick so dont understand the fold if yourfolding on the turn u have wasted extra 150 by calling the flop bet

KAM99

Err, either daja vu is kicking in or you posted this same hand for help yesterday. bump it or reply in that rather than make two posts on the same hand maybe?

EvilPingu

Either overlimp pre (Never open limp, but overlimping, which is limping when someone else has already limped, with certain hands is okay) or raise to 120. 90 isn't big enough.

If you're going to bet that flop, then we have to bet much bigger. Half pot is horrible, as it's giving people such a good price to call and hit their draw. If someone has an 8 there, or two hearts, they're going to pay much more than 150, they'll probably call 225, 250, or maybe even full pot, so charge them to draw, make them put money in the pot with the worst hand.

Fold to the minraise. If he's drawing, then the clickback makes no sense, he'd either flat call to try and hit, or raise bigger as a semi-bluff and use fold equity, knowing that he's got decent equity if called. A good player would also check/raise a monster bigger (or donk lead instead of checking) to protect against/extract value from draws, and also because he'd do the same with a semi-bluff, so we know the opponent who minraised the flop here is probably a fish. Fish are generally passive, and his call pre-flop from the small blind would support that. Despite having never seen the villain before, I can work out that he is most likely a passive fish from this one hand.

A passive fish that takes this line always has either the nuts, or a hand which he thinks is the nuts. Either way, our J10 is definitely crushed here. When faced with that minraise, I'd probably be folding all two pair hands and maybe even hero fold a set of 7s tbh.

Also don't call the minraise on the flop if you're going to fold when the turn is a brick. If you thought your hand was ahead on the flop, it's still ahead on the turn, because the 5 of spades shouldn't make any difference to anyone's hand. You have to think several moves ahead, like in Chess. 

Before you call that minraise, you need to already be thinking: 

"What am I going to if the turn is a brick?"

"What am I going to if the turn is a 6?"

"What am I going to if the turn is a 8?"

"What am I going to if the turn is a heart?"

"What am I going to if the turn is a jack?"

"What am I going to if the turn pairs the board?"

rrickyhugg

In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold??:

Err, either daja vu is kicking in or you posted this same hand for help yesterday. bump it or reply in that rather than make two posts on the same hand maybe?
Posted by KAM99

read what I typed please

davelufc

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In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold?? : read what I typed please
Posted by rrickyhugg

There is an option to edit a post at the bottom, if you want to add/delete anything from your original thread.

Saves posting same thread twice. Hope this helps.

KAM99

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In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold?? : read what I typed please
Posted by rrickyhugg

No problem, just saying. Didn't remeber seeing that PS there before, and as the above post says you can edit your posts. Not to mention you'll normally get feedback anyway regardless of if you put a certain icon for the post, because the poker clinic section is for just that. Sometimes depends more on the topic title, as some go on that to if it interests them to look at etc.

Anyway, meant no offence.

rrickyhugg

In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold??:

In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold?? : There is an option to edit a post at the bottom, if you want to add/delete anything from your original thread. Saves posting same thread twice. Hope this helps.
Posted by davelufc

Thanks but I wanted to mark it as a question or delete it and i didnt know how to do either so just posted again!

Thanks for the help

rrickyhugg

In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold??:

In Response to Re: Is This the Right fold?? : No problem, just saying. Didn't remeber seeing that PS there before, and as the above post says you can edit your posts. Not to mention you'll normally get feedback anyway regardless of if you put a certain icon for the post, because the poker clinic section is for just that. Sometimes depends more on the topic title, as some go on that to if it interests them to look at etc. Anyway, meant no offence.
Posted by KAM99

Thanks, didnt mean to sound rude!

Thanks for the help !