Is this a fold?

Slykllist

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Slykllist	Small blind		75.00	75.00	5705.00
roker58	Big blind		150.00	225.00	3427.50
	Your hole cards	10 A
jdqontilt1	Call		150.00	375.00	11761.25
nozz3r	Call		150.00	525.00	8685.00
Mister-E	Raise		750.00	1275.00	5700.00
col21	All-in		866.25	2141.25	0.00
Slykllist	Call		791.25	2932.50	4913.75
roker58	Call		716.25	3648.75	2711.25
jdqontilt1	Call		716.25	4365.00	11045.00
nozz3r	Fold
Mister-E	Call		116.25	4481.25	5583.75
Flop
		7 K 5
Slykllist	Check
roker58	Check
jdqontilt1	Check
Mister-E	All-in		5583.75	10065.00	0.00
Slykllist	All-in		4913.75	14978.75	0.00
roker58	Fold
jdqontilt1	Fold
Mister-E	Unmatched bet		670.00	14308.75	670.00
Slykllist	Show	10 A
Mister-E	Show	A A
col21	Show	J Q
Turn
		3
River
		7
Mister-E	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 7s	14308.75		14978.75

KAM99

Not 100% sure I even like the call preflop from SB when the guy has made a fairly serious 5xbb raise, which is obviously based on 3x + 1 for each limper as standard, but I'm giving him credit for a decent hand in most cases when he does this. At least the reshove won't open betting again I'm assuming, but still not sure I'd love having to play A10 post flop OOP to that kind of raise if the ace lands.

As played on the flop you aren't getting the odds really, if we assume his preflop raise was with a decent hand. Lets say he isn't bluffing then with his preflop raise we can really only assume he has AK, KK or AA, with maybe KQ possibly I'd say. May seem tight range, but if he isn't bluffing can't see much else being in his range here. If any of those are true then you really aren't getting the odds to make the call, as at best you wll have 40% equity, 45% if KQ and down to 25% if he has KK. Of course it is possible he shoves as a bluff here with it checked to him, but not sure how often he bluffs here into 3 players (very low I'd say).

So I guess if you really want to gamble your tournament on a flush draw then thats your gamble, but its not good odds. And to be honest not 100% sure I'd want to get involved OOP with A10 preflop at this stage.

1267

Fold pre

Slykllist

Just to clarify as I gave no details at all, this was a bounty hunter and I'd made the call pre flop knowing that all-in was an under-raise so I was definately going to be able to see the flop and if the board falls nicely for me there's a bounty to be had and a nice pot to be taken (give previous action, I was expecting calls from the other 2 players in the pot).

Having made the call pre-flop (and I agree, usually this should be a fold) when 2 spades come on the board, I've got pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for so feel almost compelled to call or it was pointless entering the pot in the first place.  That said, I'm still not getting the rigth odds so probably should be a fold.

dav1964

In Response to Re: Is this a fold?:

Just to clarify as I gave no details at all, this was a bounty hunter and I'd made the call pre flop knowing that all-in was an under-raise so I was definately going to be able to see the flop and if the board falls nicely for me there's a bounty to be had and a nice pot to be taken (give previous action, I was expecting calls from the other 2 players in the pot). Having made the call pre-flop (and I agree, usually this should be a fold) when 2 spades come on the board, I've got pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for so feel almost compelled to call or it was pointless entering the pot in the first place.  That said, I'm still not getting the rigth odds so probably should be a fold.
Posted by Slykllist

Just lookin at ure play pre here i figured it was a bounty hunter , i still reckon its a fold pre tho given the size of oppos raise

splashies

In Response to Re: Is this a fold?:

Just to clarify as I gave no details at all, this was a bounty hunter and I'd made the call pre flop knowing that all-in was an under-raise so I was definately going to be able to see the flop and if the board falls nicely for me there's a bounty to be had and a nice pot to be taken (give previous action, I was expecting calls from the other 2 players in the pot). Having made the call pre-flop (and I agree, usually this should be a fold) when 2 spades come on the board, I've got pretty much exactly what I'm hoping for so feel almost compelled to call or it was pointless entering the pot in the first place.  That said, I'm still not getting the rigth odds so probably should be a fold.
Posted by Slykllist

This isn't true, the BB, UTG and UTG + 1 still have the option to raise or shove.

Once it gets back to Mister E, he is unable to raise or shove.

It's a fold pre for me.

AMYBR

Its a raise or fold pre, most likely a fold for me.

But with pot size and equity I happily get rest in on flop.

rancid

fold pre

open shove flop

HYPETING

Fold pre.

grantorino

Fold pre.if you wanna play 3bet. When you call you aren't that happy when you flop a pair, when we flop a big draw we get it in flipping and won't have enough fold equity with pot size