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Are you a lucky player?

edited November 2009 in Poker Chat
following on from what part of poker is luck, do you consider yourself lucky or an unlucky player?

I consider myself unlucky :(
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  • edited November 2009
    I voted for unlucky but am starting to realise that I'm hoping for too much luck.......lol
  • edited November 2009
    only lucky when I have a really good hand an playing mostly tight.

    normal play, when not thinking about then definately unlucky.
  • edited November 2009

    They say you lose 50 50s 80% of the time in my case its true

  • edited November 2009
    THE MORE RISKS YOU TAKE THE MORE TIMES YOU TEST YOUR LUCK. SO LOOSER PLAYER ARE GOING TO FEEL LUCKIER THAN TIGHT PLAYERS.
  • edited November 2009
    ALL THESE THREADS ABOUT LUCK REMIND ME OF ONE OF MY FAVORITE SPORTING QUOTES FROM JACK NICKALAUS.

    "THE MORE I PRACTICE THE LUCKIER I GET"
  • edited November 2009
    I voted lucky, cos unless you feel lucky you cant be lucky imo


  • edited November 2009
    As Gary Player once said when asked if he thought he was lucky ......''The more I practice the luckier I get''
  • edited November 2009
    Am i? you tell me - just played a DYM heads up, i got to 2300 v 700, had Ah Ad all in v Ac Qs  Community cards came 4 spades for villians flush lol. A few hands later had1450 v 1550 villain called 100 i pushed all in with 8-10, he called with QQ i won with a straight 6-7-8-9-10 lol, so perhaps we were both lucky and unlucky, it just all depends how many chips you have when your unlucky lol
  • edited November 2009
    I answered YES because this week I am about £250 up, as me again after I have lost it all and I'll answer NO.
  • edited November 2009
    I'd answer both if I could.  Have had it both ways, some weeks I get walloped getting my money in with the best hand, other weeks I can see my opponent turn over cards that have them way ahead and still come out laughing.  It's all swings and roundabouts.
  • edited November 2009
    If everybody is so unlucky, where are all the winners?

    I have had some awful luck recently but also find the luck comes in stages

    Dave
  • edited November 2009
    Based on the last few days since i joined here, very lucky. Only failed to cash once in the 30p DYM so far (last of the big spenders me!)
  • edited November 2009

    Unlucky at the moment in cash games (300 dollars down on what i should of won)

    Holdem manager calculates $ev which is what your should have won on average and you can compare it to what you actually have won.(doubt that makes sense lol)

    A example would be if your playing a 0.50-1 cash game and you go all in twice in a row  4 $100 with a 50%/50% race and loose both of them.

    Then your dollars won total would be -200 but your $ev would be 0.00 as on average you should win half your races.

    I have proof so no need to evacuate me to area 51 lol
  • edited November 2009
    I get lucky once for every 5 times i get unlucky.
  • edited November 2009
    Isn't everyone as lucky as evryone else - they just don't always appreciate it
  • edited November 2009
    I don't know. Luck can be what you make of it or not as the case may be.

    I played a hand earlier AQ suited spades against 7's

    flop fell 9 s 10 s  j d. 

    At this point I had an up and down, flush draw and 2 overs to the pair. Statistically, I was actually a 70% fave now on the hand, although I had not hit.

    Turn a 9 h now roughly 55% fave even though I had still not hit.

    Now although a massive dog post flop, even though he had hit and I hadn't, I'm sure he considered himself unlucky for me hitting, 'a miracle card' of a river ace c and typed in the box, 'typical, rivered'

    In actual fact, that miracle card was any spade, any ace, king, queen, ten, or jack or eight.

    Or to be precise 25 outs from the remaining 44 cards left in the pack.

    But I got 'lucky'.

    Later, I actually put the hand into an odds calculator to see how 'lucky' I got. Thats how I know I was 70% fave post flop.

    I'm quite sure he considered me very lucky that hand and himself very unlucky.
  • edited November 2009
    Rather be lucky than good.

    But in the long run, "luck" evens out and skill takes over.
  • edited November 2009
    You can't wait to be infront EVERY hand, if your opponent is short stack and shoves sometimes you have to call with any2 (especially BH's) also when you yourself are short you need to shove. These situations you dont feel you are ahead but will win more often than you think (40% of the time if your cards are live) thats when you feel lucky
  • edited November 2009
    I went to vote lucky and my mouse skipped to unlucky just as I pressed the button, I can't believe my luck!
  • edited November 2009
    i think its a case of ,

    do you see the glass half full or

    half empty.

    in poker it helps to see it half full,

    this way being a optimist one can roll with the bad beats ,

    and get on and focus on the next game quickly ,

    so i voted yes i am lucky,


  • edited November 2009
    On the basis that a wise man (or woman, obviously), will make many more opportunities than they will find... Then I'm still undecided.

    Do I win a prize?
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    ALL THESE THREADS ABOUT LUCK REMIND ME OF ONE OF MY FAVORITE SPORTING QUOTES FROM JACK NICKALAUS. "THE MORE I PRACTICE THE LUCKIER I GET"
    Posted by BADBOY985
    badboy do u reckon u can get worse the more u practice tho? feels like Im getting worse the more I play
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player? : badboy do u reckon u can get worse the more u practice tho? feels like Im getting worse the more I play
    Posted by xFALLENx
    Hi fallen, I know it was a little tongue in cheek quote, but the simple answer is.....

    Yes.

    Sometimes by playing too much can put you at a disadvantage where you end up seeing too many flops, chase too many draws etc.

    If you see someone else do it and get successful for long periods, the natural instinct is to imitate, although this may be subconsiously and you are not even aware you are doing it.

    Also whilst you are on a bad run, you will start to play more to gain a few wins. Resulting in a downward spiral.

    After even a small bad run, I have a few days away to completely forget my luck and the opponents bad play so I can come back refreshed and play my own game.
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player? : Hi fallen, I know it was a little tongue in cheek quote, but the simple answer is..... Yes. Sometimes by playing too much can put you at a disadvantage where you end up seeing too many flops, chase too many draws etc. If you see someone else do it and get successful for long periods, the natural instinct is to imitate, although this may be subconsiously and you are not even aware you are doing it. Also whilst you are on a bad run, you will start to play more to gain a few wins. Resulting in a downward spiral. After even a small bad run, I have a few days away to completely forget my luck and the opponents bad play so I can come back refreshed and play my own game.
    Posted by Hale72
    Hey Hale72

    Yes it was a bit tongue in cheek but ur are right!!!

    If ever I do chance a hand (as in st8 or flush) it NEVER pays off whereas everybody else who does it they hit. Dont get me wrong I dont do it very often but I think it is effecting my game.Im starting 2 think what is the point of betting as Im gonna lose anyway and then if I dont bet or raise ppl see me as weak. Even reading poker 4 dummies hasnt helped my game.
    I kno its only a game and some ppl say u shouldnt take so seriously and I dont (that much) but theres only a certain amount u can stomach.
  • edited November 2009
    Hi everyone

    I seem to remember from my psychology days, a study that was done to determine whether people who thought they were lucky actually were luckier than those that thought they werent.

    They got a group of people to rate how lucky they thought they were on a scale from 1-10, then had them predict the outcome of a large number of coin tosses.  It transpired that those in the group that scored themselves highly and therefore more lucky, actually WERE able to predict the outcome of the toin cosses more often than those who rated themselves unlucky. 

    Not to bore you with statistics, but this study showed that it was beyond chance and that there was a significant importance on how lucky you perceive yourself.

    maybe something for us all to consider when we next go all in and its a race...
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    Hi everyone I seem to remember from my psychology days, a study that was done to determine whether people who thought they were lucky actually were luckier than those that thought they werent. They got a group of people to rate how lucky they thought they were on a scale from 1-10, then had them predict the outcome of a large number of coin tosses.  It transpired that those in the group that scored themselves highly and therefore more lucky, actually WERE able to predict the outcome of the toin cosses more often than those who rated themselves unlucky.  Not to bore you with statistics, but this study showed that it was beyond chance and that there was a significant importance on how lucky you perceive yourself. maybe something for us all to consider when we next go all in and its a race...
    Posted by Buistyboy
    my thoughts exactly, well said.

    Youve got to think lucky to be lucky imo.
  • edited November 2009

    As the saying goes - If it wasn`t for Bad Luck id have No Luck at All

  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    As Gary Player once said when asked if he thought he was lucky ......''The more I practice the luckier I get''
    Posted by elsadog
    Think it was Lee Tevino, sorry lol
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player?:
    In Response to Re: Are you a lucky player? : Think it was Lee Tevino, sorry lol
    Posted by labrat64
    Gary Player is generally acknowledged as the first golfer to say it.
    He was paraphrasing a saying by Sam Goldwyn: "the harder I work, the luckier I get".
  • edited November 2009
    Lee Travino was the one that said , whilst on about Lightnin ..if i`d have had a 1 Iron in me hand i`d have bin safe cos even God can`t hit a 1 Iron ...summat like that anyroad
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