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following on from what part of poker is luck, do you consider yourself lucky or an unlucky player?
I consider myself unlucky
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normal play, when not thinking about then definately unlucky.
They say you lose 50 50s 80% of the time in my case its true
"THE MORE I PRACTICE THE LUCKIER I GET"
I have had some awful luck recently but also find the luck comes in stages
Dave
Unlucky at the moment in cash games (300 dollars down on what i should of won)
Holdem manager calculates $ev which is what your should have won on average and you can compare it to what you actually have won.(doubt that makes sense lol)
A example would be if your playing a 0.50-1 cash game and you go all in twice in a row 4 $100 with a 50%/50% race and loose both of them.
Then your dollars won total would be -200 but your $ev would be 0.00 as on average you should win half your races.
I have proof so no need to evacuate me to area 51 lol
I played a hand earlier AQ suited spades against 7's
flop fell 9 s 10 s j d.
At this point I had an up and down, flush draw and 2 overs to the pair. Statistically, I was actually a 70% fave now on the hand, although I had not hit.
Turn a 9 h now roughly 55% fave even though I had still not hit.
Now although a massive dog post flop, even though he had hit and I hadn't, I'm sure he considered himself unlucky for me hitting, 'a miracle card' of a river ace c and typed in the box, 'typical, rivered'
In actual fact, that miracle card was any spade, any ace, king, queen, ten, or jack or eight.
Or to be precise 25 outs from the remaining 44 cards left in the pack.
But I got 'lucky'.
Later, I actually put the hand into an odds calculator to see how 'lucky' I got. Thats how I know I was 70% fave post flop.
I'm quite sure he considered me very lucky that hand and himself very unlucky.
But in the long run, "luck" evens out and skill takes over.
do you see the glass half full or
half empty.
in poker it helps to see it half full,
this way being a optimist one can roll with the bad beats ,
and get on and focus on the next game quickly ,
so i voted yes i am lucky,
Yes.
Sometimes by playing too much can put you at a disadvantage where you end up seeing too many flops, chase too many draws etc.
If you see someone else do it and get successful for long periods, the natural instinct is to imitate, although this may be subconsiously and you are not even aware you are doing it.
Also whilst you are on a bad run, you will start to play more to gain a few wins. Resulting in a downward spiral.
After even a small bad run, I have a few days away to completely forget my luck and the opponents bad play so I can come back refreshed and play my own game.
Yes it was a bit tongue in cheek but ur are right!!!
If ever I do chance a hand (as in st8 or flush) it NEVER pays off whereas everybody else who does it they hit. Dont get me wrong I dont do it very often but I think it is effecting my game.Im starting 2 think what is the point of betting as Im gonna lose anyway and then if I dont bet or raise ppl see me as weak. Even reading poker 4 dummies hasnt helped my game.
I kno its only a game and some ppl say u shouldnt take so seriously and I dont (that much) but theres only a certain amount u can stomach.
I seem to remember from my psychology days, a study that was done to determine whether people who thought they were lucky actually were luckier than those that thought they werent.
They got a group of people to rate how lucky they thought they were on a scale from 1-10, then had them predict the outcome of a large number of coin tosses. It transpired that those in the group that scored themselves highly and therefore more lucky, actually WERE able to predict the outcome of the toin cosses more often than those who rated themselves unlucky.
Not to bore you with statistics, but this study showed that it was beyond chance and that there was a significant importance on how lucky you perceive yourself.
maybe something for us all to consider when we next go all in and its a race...
Youve got to think lucky to be lucky imo.
As the saying goes - If it wasn`t for Bad Luck id have No Luck at All
He was paraphrasing a saying by Sam Goldwyn: "the harder I work, the luckier I get".