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QQ facing turn re raise
£22 BH, Only 2nd hand in, so no reads.
Has oppo got there on the turn? I dont think i`m calling, so fold or shove?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dooney | Small blind | 10.00 | 10.00 | 1970.00 | |
| Tspark | Big blind | 20.00 | 30.00 | 1980.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| davelufc | Raise | 60.00 | 90.00 | 1940.00 | |
| DODGY65 | Fold | ||||
| walkz | Call | 60.00 | 150.00 | 1880.00 | |
| Chilled73 | Fold | ||||
| Dooney | Call | 50.00 | 200.00 | 1920.00 | |
| Tspark | Call | 40.00 | 240.00 | 1940.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| Dooney | Check | ||||
| Tspark | Check | ||||
| davelufc | Bet | 120.00 | 360.00 | 1820.00 | |
| walkz | Call | 120.00 | 480.00 | 1760.00 | |
| Dooney | Fold | ||||
| Tspark | Fold | ||||
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| davelufc | Bet | 240.00 | 720.00 | 1580.00 | |
| walkz | Raise | 480.00 | 1200.00 | 1280.00 | |
| davelufc ?? | |||||
Comments
Why are you cbetting half pot?
Anyway, the bet on the turn is probably a bit of a mistake. It's tough to check because it feels like we're giving up but on this turn there's not much reason to bet. If we think about what he called with on the flop:
If he had a King we're behind and just handing him value.
If he had a flush draw, again we're behind and are just handing him value.
If he had a Jack he probably won't call another bet.
So if he calls or raises we're probably behind and if he folds then we've folded out a worse hand. Probably the only hands we're beating that call on the turn are something like a Jack with a flush draw or perhaps QT with the Queen of clubs. That's not a large number of hands and against his overall range I don't think the bet on the turn makes sense.
I think the best option on the turn is to check and probably give up if he bets. It might be alright to call one street of betting from him if you think he's capable of floating with air or of calling with a Jack and then repping the flush - even then I don't think we can stand another bet on the river - but I don't think there's anything wrong with just giving it up here. Check and hope he checks it back.
As played we're not beating much of his range when he makes this raise. It might just be someone being creative, floating the flop then repping the flush with a raise but more often it will be a better hand than QQ.
Also, no issue with a half pot bet either really here. Most people vary their bets from half to 3/4 so long as thats all you're doing then its no bother and not an issue either.
Fold the turn i think you get your answer on the flop. I don't bet out on the turn here. I don't there is a hand you are beating that he would call the flop and min raise the turn.
2 nd hand in this guy has a set, flush or KJ at the least. i'd guess id play it this way i think he can't raise any more on the turn cuz that would scare you off out of the hand if you had nothing thats a big thing to me in this hand
Fold all day long for me what did you do ?
may aswel check flop
The thing that makes a half-pot bet most reasonable in tournaments is that it makes our bluffs cheaper and, out of a shorter stack as in tournament play, that's always likely to be best. We also get value from a wider range of hands and give ourselves more ammunition to fire. Granted that ammunition doesn't have the same impact, but on most ocassions if they're folding for 2/3 or 3/4 pot, they're folding for 1/2 pot too. That's especially true if they've seen us making this bet with a value hand.