should I have shoved

rrickyhugg

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
rrickyhugg	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2025.00
newton10	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2560.00
	Your hole cards	Q A
Grispino	Raise		120.00	165.00	1790.00
suedaz	Fold
bungo666	Fold
MeloPete	Fold
rrickyhugg	Call		105.00	270.00	1920.00
newton10	Fold
Flop
		4 Q 2
rrickyhugg	Check
Grispino	Bet		60.00	330.00	1730.00
rrickyhugg	Call		60.00	390.00	1860.00
Turn
		7
rrickyhugg	Check
Grispino	Bet		120.00	510.00	1610.00
rrickyhugg	Call		120.00	630.00	1740.00
River
		K
rrickyhugg	Check
Grispino	Bet		315.00	945.00	1295.00
rrickyhugg	All-in		1740.00	2685.00	0.00
Grispino	Fold
rrickyhugg	Muck
rrickyhugg	Win		1260.00		1260.00
rrickyhugg	Return		1425.00	0.00	2685.00

Lambert180

I think shoving is probably the best move here, if he won't call a shove, then he probably isn't gonna call if you raise to 750 either.

He's probably gonna call or fold to a raise here regardless of size so might as well go for max value.

EvilPingu

I probably check/raise the flop, but as played, I think that a shove on the river is the only option. As Lambert said, he's either going to be bet/folding, in which case, it doesn't matter what we do, or he'll be bet/calling or looking to get the money in, in which case, we might as well shove to get maximum value.

rancid

donk lead flop :S

AMYBR

Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets. 

Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made

Gudge92

In Response to Re: should I have shoved:

Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
Posted by AMYBR

i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river

Gudge92

In Response to Re: should I have shoved:

Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
Posted by AMYBR

i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river

Gudge92

In Response to Re: should I have shoved:

Start building a pot earlier, obv more profitable than hoping beyond hope he bets 3 streets.  Plus we can get oppo to commit more while he thinks he can improve/before suspected drawing hands are made
Posted by AMYBR

i agree, i think u lost alot of value on the flop and turn. on the river he isnt likley to call a shove, if u get him more commited earlier then u have better chance of call and ur move looked so strong on river