have to stack off here given previous hand?

jams88

1st hand that im getting my read from and his general limp call play

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
ThexMajor	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£22.02
Luzhniki	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£23.38
	Your hole cards	Q Q
fatman844	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£31.24
jams88	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£18.90
ThexMajor	Fold
Luzhniki	Fold
fatman844	Call		£0.60	£1.90	£30.64
Flop
		9 2 3
fatman844	Check
jams88	Bet		£1.20	£3.10	£17.70
fatman844	Raise		£2.40	£5.50	£28.24
jams88	Raise		£6.23	£11.73	£11.47
fatman844	All-in		£28.24	£39.97	£0.00
jams88	All-in		£11.47	£51.44	£0.00
fatman844	Unmatched bet		£11.74	£39.70	£11.74
fatman844	Show	Q 9
jams88	Show	Q Q
Turn
		3
River
		10
jams88	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 3s	£37.90		£37.90

i think i am ahead of his overall range here often enough to make this right?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mancity11	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£13.36
Luzhniki	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£44.13
	Your hole cards	A J
fatman844	Call		£0.20	£0.50	£35.55
jams88	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£42.46
JOE07	Fold
mancity11	Fold
Luzhniki	Fold
fatman844	Call		£0.60	£1.90	£34.95
Flop
		J 3 6
fatman844	Check
jams88	Bet		£1.20	£3.10	£41.26
fatman844	Raise		£3.00	£6.10	£31.95
jams88	Raise		£7.40	£13.50	£33.86
fatman844	All-in		£31.95	£45.45	£0.00
jams88	Call		£26.35	£71.80	£7.51
fatman844	Show	K K
jams88	Show	A J
Turn
		5
River
		8
fatman844	Win	Pair of Kings	£70.00		£70.00

bye bye profit + half BI sigh

Lambert180

Well yeah, obviously the more times you've seen someone do something the better, but you've just seen this guy happily stack off with TP mediocre kicker, then he's played the next hand virtually identical.

Pain in the **** these sort of people who limp/call Q9o and do exactly the same with KK, but you just gotta do what is right most of the time.

BigHawk89

Kind of unlucky but you gotta think is he really going to stack off to the same player with a TPWK like he did in the previous hand??? These donks do learn sometimes lol but once you raise 7.40 and he sticks it in you have to call but i wouldnt be too happy about it.

jams88

I should probably clarify its not the exact next hand about 10mins later. I couldnt see what he is doing this with that i am losing to except perhaps a set but is that a weakness in my game?

Curt360x27

He's obv bad, so yeah get your chips in and be happy about life with TPTK.

Batkin88

In Response to Re: have to stack off here given previous hand?:

He's obv bad, so yeah get your chips in and be happy about life with TPTK.
Posted by Curt360x27

Why is he obv bad??? There is such thing as a limping game and to be fair to the villain here if he is doing it with every hand in his range it makes him so hard to read! If he is limping all the time and repeating his play with his entire range I would hardly say he is OBV bad. You see players like DEEB, HANSEN and Hellmuth continuosly use this sort of play as it not only tilts players but makes your hands so hard to read.
Personally I learnt my poker through this site so have always wanted to bring it in with a raise but I don't agree that limping like the above hands makes you a bad player. I f he limps Q9 then opend 3x with KK thats bad but he hasn't.

Curt360x27

In Response to Re: have to stack off here given previous hand?:

In Response to Re: have to stack off here given previous hand? : Why is he obv bad??? There is such thing as a limping game and to be fair to the villain here if he is doing it with every hand in his range it makes him so hard to read! If he is limping all the time and repeating his play with his entire range I would hardly say he is OBV bad. You see players like DEEB, HANSEN and Hellmuth continuosly use this sort of play as it not only tilts players but makes your hands so hard to read. Personally I learnt my poker through this site so have always wanted to bring it in with a raise but I don't agree that limping like the above hands makes you a bad player. I f he limps Q9 then opend 3x with KK thats bad but he hasn't.
Posted by Batkin88

Just furthers my point even more!

Batkin88

lol

AMYBR

I think we have to lose, but am not sure we have to get it aiof.  I dont really love 3 betting this flop with 1pr hand, flopping being what it is.  I prob flat his c/r this time tbh.

May be coloured by seeing result thou, not sure.  Generally think would be a better line, but with specific reads may be ok.

Perhaps next time leave result out.  Ul tho

rancid

some oppo u can stack off like this ahead with one pair - some you can't

this oppo you can going by reads, but think your reads need to be based on a larger sample size to be relied upon