can anyone explain why you would call with this?

jenars

jenars	Small blind		300.00	300.00	5550.00
JJ673	Big blind		600.00	900.00	18910.00
	Your hole cards	K K
katoch	Call		600.00	1500.00	4940.00
ALEX29	Fold
conorccfc	Fold
martin1949	Fold
jenars	Raise		2100.00	3600.00	3450.00
JJ673	Fold
katoch	All-in		4940.00	8540.00	0.00
jenars	All-in		3450.00	11990.00	0.00
jenars	Unmatched bet		310.00	11680.00	310.00
jenars	Show	K K
katoch	Show	8 9
Flop
		7 6 9
Turn
		5
River
		10
katoch	Win	Straight to the 10	11680.00		11680.00

ive never moaned about losing before but this was on the bubble why would anyone call this ?  sometimes it makes you want to pack it all in !!!!!

Talon

  Two points on this hand.

Firstly it was you who called not your opponent.

 Secondly it looks to me like the guy made a squeeze play and just chose the wrong time to do it and then got lucky.

 There is a lot of bullying that goes on around the bubble time and if he put you as a bully then he was not out of line to shove back at you.In and around the bubble time a lot of stealing goes on and your raise could easily be seen as this.

  I do not think the guy made the worst play going as your raise gave him only 2 choices shove or fold. You just have to remember that people do not know how strong you are until you turn your cards over. And as it happens preflop you were only about 3 to 1 favourite to win the hand which is probably not as big a favourite as you thought.This is just one of those situations where the guy made a mistimed play and got lucky. It happens we just have to take the hit and move on. If we keep getting our chips in ahead then we will come out fine overall but anomolies like this occur.

FlashFlush

limp UTG to then shove all in to a raise stinks of AA, KK.. I think your folding 95% of hands there and he just timed it wrong with what you had. Nice play by him in my opinion, and he knew if he did get called unless you had a big PP (which you did) he would have live cards.

NoseyBonk

With that stack why didn't you just shove PF?

unknown_username

Bitter Pill 2 swallow, I should kno I have a whole medicine cabnet full.



NO OFFENCE 2 ANY OTHER POSTS HERE

im not gonna tell u what u did wrong or how u should have played, i understand that someties u just wanna have a rant (I do loads just ask around)

U were very unlucky and Im sorry 2 hear

Hale72

9 X BB left.

Shove first is your only option preflop.

He tried to steal your raise wilth an all in.

With the size of the blinds and your stack, there is no room for dancing.

However, I am surprised he tried to bluff you on the cash bubble, especially as you had 40% of your stack invested, you were too far down that road to fold kings.

Perhaps it was because of the bubble, he felt you may fold to pressure just to limp in to the cash.

A shove first would have given him no option but to fold.

scrumdown

u  should  have  pushed    preflop    instead  u  let  him  see  a  cheap   flop  with  his   suited  connectors    and  he  hit    top pair    then  a str8 

labrat64

your raise smells like a steal. All in with those dynamics and he folds. That's my twopennath anyway.

unknown_username

In Response to Re: can anyone explain why you would call with this?:

limp UTG to then shove all in to a raise stinks of AA, KK.. I think your folding 95% of hands there and he just timed it wrong with what you had. Nice play by him in my opinion, and he knew if he did get called unless you had a big PP (which you did) he would have live cards.
Posted by FlashFlush

I doubt the OP is past level 1 else he wouldnt be making this thread anyway.

35suited

In Response to Re: can anyone explain why you would call with this?:

u  should  have  pushed    preflop    instead  u  let  him  see  a  cheap   flop  with  his   suited  connectors    and  he  hit    top pair    then  a str8 
Posted by scrumdown

There wasnt a cheap flop all the chips were in the middle before the flop, but yes id have gone all in first as well

JingleMa

"And as it happens preflop you were only about 3 to 1 favourite to win the hand" Posted by Talon

Just to be super pedantic, you were 78.61%, he was 20.97% and the split pot was 0.42% pre flop.

So you were nearly 4 to 1 favourite, the rest of what Talon says is spot on.

mabsue

To be honest i think you got unlucky here it appears to me that the guy was planning this move regardless of whoever raised representing extreme strength unlucky for you that you woke up with the hand he was preparing to represent but i tend to lean towards the shove all in preflop therefore removing the option for him to try his squeeze play which i can only believe is what it was intended to be he couldnt have believed he was ahead imo you got unlucky perhaps given the same chance you would given your stack size put it all in then that will ask the question rathe rthan letting someone else ask you good luck i hope it helps

CLIOKID

In Response to Re: can anyone explain why you would call with this?:

your raise smells like a steal. All in with those dynamics and he folds. That's my twopennath anyway.
Posted by labrat64

Disagree.

A raise looks super strong with that small a stack.

All-in would look more of a steal.

It is a horrendous move from the UTG limper due to stack sizes. If it was a deeper game then yes the move could work and fold out some hands but at the end of the day the raiser isn't going to fold to this play as he is committed.

So he is jamming it with 9 high knowing he is going to get called.

LadyFingrs

Put you on AK.

/explained

BADBOY985

THINK HE TOTALY MISREAD YOU AND GOT LUCKY, ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL OPINION HERE SHOVE FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER AND HES MORE THAN LIKELY FOLDING AND YOUR 2.5 BBS UP.
WHAT TOURNIMENT WAS IT i.e TYPE/BUY IN

jenars

In Response to Re: can anyone explain why you would call with this?:

In Response to Re: can anyone explain why you would call with this? : Disagree. A raise looks super strong with that small a stack. All-in would look more of a steal. It is a horrendous move from the UTG limper due to stack sizes. If it was a deeper game then yes the move could work and fold out some hands but at the end of the day the raiser isn't going to fold to this play as he is committed. So he is jamming it with 9 high knowing he is going to get called.
Posted by CLIOKID

thanks for all the replies,

Totally agree CLIOKID this is just how i played it. I couldnt believe it when he called with 9 high.

BADBOY985   it was £300 guaranteed and £10 buy in.

thanks

thompson10

just some people feel like calling and then they hit lol....