10NL - What do you do on the Turn?

Lambert180

First time playing against X but he's built up an image with me VERY quickly. He's involved in alot of pots, almost always comes in for a raise. I've seen him 4bet JJ, then get it in on Q-high flop. I've also seen him 4bet to 1/2 his stack then fold to my 5bet jam

Also he loves to bluff post flop, sometimes as a semi-bluff, sometimes with complete air. It's the reason I only flatted the flop raise, to give him a chance of taking another stab on the turn.

When he does, dya think I should have just flatted the turn? Part of me thought he can't really fold with what's in the pot and what he's got behind if he's got any sort of hand, but then the other part thought if I flat, he'll probably stick the rest in on the river.

I think I got it wrong.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
X	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£19.82
Lambert180	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£12.39
	Your hole cards	Q A
jazzychoi	Fold
BarryQueen	Fold
X	Raise		£0.15	£0.30	£19.67
Lambert180	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£11.79
X	Call		£0.50	£1.40	£19.17
Flop
		4 4 Q
X	Check
Lambert180	Bet		£0.80	£2.20	£10.99
X	Raise		£2.30	£4.50	£16.87
Lambert180	Call		£1.50	£6.00	£9.49
Turn
		2
X	Bet		£3.00	£9.00	£13.87
Lambert180	All-in		£9.49	£18.49	£0.00
X	Fold
Lambert180	Muck
Lambert180	Win		£11.10		£11.10
Lambert180	Return		£6.49	£0.90	£17.59

CrazyBen23

So he loves to bluff and you've made it impossible for him to carry on bluffing.. sounds like you know the answer to your post already which would be correct

offshoot

you know youre calling any river so theres no real need to get the money in on the turn vs a serial bluffer.

Its very easy to make this mistake though. Its probably the right thing to do a certain % of the time.

IDONKCALLU

+ 1 to offshoot dunno y u all in on turn just bluff catch

Batkin88

Your only hating a king on the turn so dwell on the time bar and then call. Let him shove the river and you can snap him off, if he doesn't then thin value bet him on the river like £2 hoping he comes over the top as a bluff or calls with a mid PP or ace high.

Kalie

Slykllist

In Response to Re: 10NL - What do you do on the Turn?:

Your only hating a king on the turn so dwell on the time bar and then call. Let him shove the river and you can snap him off, if he doesn't then thin value bet him on the river like £2 hoping he comes over the top as a bluff or calls with a mid PP or ace high. Kalie
Posted by Batkin88

As above

BigHawk89

As said above just call down no matter what comes on turn or river. When he raises that board whats he tryna represent? its either a 4, FD or stone cold bluff.

AMYBR

tbh lambert havent read your paragraph above the hand, just the hand itself.

I cant see any reason to raise turn. 

But then looking over other responses I see things like "you noted oppo loves to bluff" etc, making shipping turn make even less sense.  (Hugely)

Given that type of read we can be relatively confident oppo is going to ship river so we dont have to really fear losing value on brick river, as if he misses clubs he'll likely still set you in - or just rep a 4.  But we arent planning to fold are we?

So let the rope out