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2 hands that beat me-

edited July 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Is the min raise on the flop from oppo an indication of 1 of the 2 hands that beat me or is this just a cooler?
lovejunky Small blind   40.00 40.00 5232.50
sara36dd08 Big blind   80.00 120.00 5627.50
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
     
Mohican Raise   240.00 360.00 1727.50
WOW1tsANDY Fold        
coolbob21 Fold        
foolhows Fold        
lovejunky Fold        
sara36dd08 Call   160.00 520.00 5467.50
Flop
   
  • A
  • J
  • A
     
sara36dd08 Check        
Mohican Bet   260.00 780.00 1467.50
sara36dd08 Raise   520.00 1300.00 4947.50
Mohican All-in   1467.50 2767.50 0.00
sara36dd08 Call   1207.50 3975.00 3740.00
sara36dd08 Show
  • A
  • J
     
Mohican Show
  • K
  • A
     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
River
   
  • 7
     
sara36dd08 Win Full House, Aces and Jacks 3975.00   7715.00

Comments

  • edited July 2012
    Raise smaller pre, 160-200 is fine.

    Other than that it's a complete cooler. JJ 3 bet pre a very high % of the time, so it's only AJ we are behind to. TBH I would rather you flat call the raise on the flop as if he has an A he will get it in on the turn for you, however by jamming over his raise you fold out all of his potential bluffs, as well as a strangely played J or underpair.

    Don't ever think about folding here though, just UL.
  • edited July 2012

    The click-back on the flop is really weird from your opponent as he basically folds out everything but the case Ace and pocket Jacks and your bet is likely to just be a c-bet, so there's no way you should be putting him on a hand that beats you. 

    If I faced this raise, I'd do exactly the same as you and think that he must be overplaying a bare Ace. The alternative is to call and let him fire on the turn if you think he might be bluffing but there's so much in the middle already that you might as well get it in. I don't think you can ever fold.

  • edited July 2012
    Cooler.      Raise pre is fine.

    Could even flat the flop.  and let him bluff the turn all the times he hasn't flopped the nuts.
  • edited July 2012
    100% flat flop.

    I think he could see your cards ;)
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: 2 hands that beat me-:
    100% flat flop. I think he could see your cards ;)
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Even with my stack size? If I call, I'm left with 1200 with 3k in pot. If he's bluffing he's not putting anymore in I think and any A is calling my shove, that's my line. My line is wrong because???? Like to know others thoughts please.
  • edited July 2012
    Just incase he is bluffing.

    You can check back turn if he slows down and shove river for 1/3 of the pot. 

    If he is going to raise this board, he really should be bluffing at it quite alot coz c/raising an Ace here makes no sense.

    It's the stacks/position/board texture that make this the easiest flat ever imo.
  • edited July 2012
    Raise less pre and flat flop, but if you can getit all in on the flop as you did then thats fine :) ul
  • edited July 2012

    It's a cooler, Sara c/r that flop is your lifeline if you have KK or QQ, not really sure how people raise the nuts with those relative stacks.. And get paid.

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