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Interesting hands?

edited July 2012 in The Poker Clinic
These hands seem interesting I thourght I post them up and see what people thourght.PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancemoorey666Small blind £0.05£0.05£5.57brownie69Big blind £0.10£0.15£1.74 Your hole cardsKQ   N_13Fold    kcuddedooFold    TINTINRaise £0.30£0.45£8.95UareLIMPERRaise £0.90£1.35£8.83moorey666Call £0.85£2.20£4.72brownie69Fold    TINTINCall £0.60£2.80£8.35Flop  A103   moorey666Check    TINTINCheck    UareLIMPERCheck    Turn  A   moorey666Bet £0.40£3.20£4.32TINTINFold    UareLIMPERRaise £2.20£5.40£6.63moorey666Call £1.80£7.20£2.52River  Q   moorey666Check    UareLIMPERAll-in £6.63£13.83£0.00moorey666All-in £2.52£16.35£0.00UareLIMPERUnmatched bet £4.11£12.24£4.11moorey666ShowA7   UareLIMPERShowKQ   moorey666WinThree Aces£11.32 £11.32
Interesting hand #2PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceTINTINSmall blind £0.05£0.05£21.71kcuddedooBig blind £0.10£0.15£13.19 Your hole cards10K   FASFold    melvyn1967Raise £0.30£0.45£6.51XXX666Fold    UareLIMPERRaise £0.90£1.35£9.01TINTINFold    kcuddedooFold    melvyn1967Call £0.60£1.95£5.91Flop  64K   melvyn1967Check    UareLIMPERBet £1.35£3.30£7.66melvyn1967Call £1.35£4.65£4.56Turn  8   melvyn1967Check    UareLIMPERCheck    River  10   melvyn1967Bet £2.33<td class="hhamt" style="pa

Comments

  • edited July 2012
    Personally, on the first hand id be betting the flop, then on the turn id maybe bet out again and if they call or raise then im not really liking the hand and im checking it down or folding but it sort of depends on the player. 2nd hand not really sure about the all in on the river as your only getting called by hands that are beating you?
  • edited July 2012
    looks like you went for thin value on the first river and it didnt work out, second hand dosnt look to thin to me but an obvious raise, wp.

    your name makes me want to raise into you more :)
  • edited July 2012
    First hand is spew. Why not bet flop? The only reason to check is if youre giving up on the hand, but then you decide to go crazy on the turn and river. What made hand would you actually play this way?

    When you get called on the turn just check river. Youre trying to bluff someone off a hand they are never folding. If they do fold its because they had a ten so what do you gain?

    2nd hand isnt interesting. I'd be more inclined to bet turn.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Interesting hands?:
    First hand is spew. Why not bet flop? The only reason to check is if youre giving up on the hand, but then you decide to go crazy on the turn and river. What made hand would you actually play this way? When you get called on the turn just check river. Youre trying to bluff someone off a hand they are never folding. If they do fold its because they had a ten so what do you gain? 2nd hand isnt interesting. I'd be more inclined to bet turn.
    Posted by offshoot
    +1

    As for hand two, I think the check on the turn is fine.
  • edited July 2012
    First hand you are repping what exactly? What had do you 3-bet pre, check on an A-high board and then go crazy with after another ace hits and changes nothing. If you are 3-betting with JJ-KK then the ace on the turn is bad, if you are 3-betting with AQ/AK the ace on the flop is good. Just flat pre and play the hand for pot control in possition.

    Second hand. Don't c-bet so much. Don't mid the 3-bet pre but you have to accept that you are playing it as a semi-bluff. c-bet 50% as standard in 3-bet pots. Reason for this is two fold: 1) you don't have to bet so hard through the streets to play for stacks 2) people play much more fit or fold post flop in 3-bet pots. Once you get called and you are checked to on the river I would just check behind and check or call the river. You do not get called by a worse hand when you raise on the river.

    In general your 3-betting range from the button should be made up of very good hands (JJ+/AK) and speculative bluffs (suited connectors, ace-rag suited, suited one gappers). Hands like KQs and KTs are sort of in the middle. You have to fold them to 4-bets, but you also fold out a lot of hands that you have dominated. Decide whether you are 3-betting for value with a really good hand, or 3-betting as a bluff to fold out better hands. 3-betting with KQs means most worse hands will fold pre or call and fold on most flops potentially losing value, while better hands may just call and then "call for value" when you start barrelling away with top pair-weak kicker.
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