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QQ, is this a bad fold?

edited July 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Low stakes DS tourney. some fair players, i know theres only 2 hands beating mine, correct fold?

I`m prob gonna get some flack for this so fire away!!!!

Oppo not been playing many hands so was a bit freaked!!

Call OOp threw me too!!!
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
RAB642 Small blind  50.00 50.00 5887.50
bigal36903 Big blind  100.00 150.00 5290.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
   
nug82 Raise  400.00 550.00 6375.00
davelufc Raise  800.00 1350.00 8341.00
lea116311 Fold     
DELTA Fold     
Ploppy33 Fold     
dandean825 Fold     
B1ackrose Fold     
aiken2001 Fold     
RAB642 Fold     
bigal36903 Call  700.00 2050.00 4590.00
nug82 Raise  2400.00 4450.00 3975.00
davelufc Fold     
bigal36903 Fold     
nug82 Muck     
nug82 Win  2450.00  6425.00
nug82 Return  2000.00 0.00 8425.00

Comments

  • edited July 2012
    We have to go broke here with qq playing 35bbs effective yes his raise looks very strong but can easily have a hand like 1010,jj,ak got to be looking to get it in here even if he does turn over kk or aa theres nothing you can do but go broke in this spot.
  • edited July 2012
    The stacks involved at the start of the hand are...

    Bigal   -  54BB
    Hero   -  89BB
    nug82 - 68BB

    So I dunno where the 35BB effective came from above.

    I think it's a pretty decent fold, I don't think I could do it myself, but it's a DS and you're still nearly 90BB deep which is massive. I can't see AK doing this too often but it's gonna be JJ+ mostly, and I just don't think there's any need to take a risk for potentially nearly 70BB when you don't need to.
  • edited July 2012
    i think theres a good argument for just flatting pre, but nh
  • edited July 2012
    HI

    I think a consideration is that you are not closing the action so imo , fold.  Too big a stack i feel.
  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: QQ, is this a bad fold?:
    i think theres a good argument for just flatting pre, but nh
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    if we flat are we looking to set mine or to c/c a baord if we have an overpair?
  • edited July 2012
    Thanks for the responses, 

    I must admit i`m still no wiser!!! Out of the 5 replies so far, 2 - fold, 1- shove and 1 - flat!!

    Ta lads.
  • edited July 2012

    Fold or shove, I think fold is fine but prefer shove.

  • edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: QQ, is this a bad fold?:
    Fold or shove, I think fold is fine but prefer shove.
    Posted by Batkin88
    ??? just jam 83bbs??? 

    never, flat good after ha makes it x4 pre
  • edited July 2012
    I think the reason why there are so many different views is because either fold, call or shove isnt bad.

    It all depends on the reads and how the players (including yourself) have been playing at the table.

    As you say he hasnt played many hands and hes obviously not scared of the person who called OOP it looks mega strong so it was probably a good fold. If you have been aggro on the table however and playing lots of hands he might think his JJ are good and then obviously a bad fold.

    From how you describe I think its a good fold as he played it so strong and screams AA/KK. Im never calling here really imo.

     
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