How should i have played this?

unknown_username

I'm tamping after this hand, Pre flop (after seeing his cards) in my eyes no matter what i raised he was calling.  So thought i'd try to isolate and have cheap look.  Any re-raise i was folding.

With that flop i was landed.  Trying to trap with small bet and induce a re-raise.  I think he would have called most bets.

Turn made me chuffed but if he was on flush draw then he had to pay as i thought he was a calling machine (which it looks like he was). Half pot bet.  Perhaps bigger raise but still think he'd call most bets.

River was the alarm card but i thought his all in was over the top and was stealing.

Any opinions??

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
coolRmike	Small blind		100.00	100.00	8253.75
joss1971	Big blind		200.00	300.00	22282.50
	Your hole cards	K J
trevil25	Fold
Lugger	Raise		400.00	700.00	16075.00
cookie83	Fold
drybrook44	Fold
coolRmike	Fold
joss1971	Call		200.00	900.00	22082.50
Flop
		2 K J
joss1971	Check
Lugger	Bet		200.00	1100.00	15875.00
joss1971	Call		200.00	1300.00	21882.50
Turn
		9
joss1971	Check
Lugger	Bet		650.00	1950.00	15225.00
joss1971	Call		650.00	2600.00	21232.50
River
		5
joss1971	Bet		20600.00	23200.00	632.50
Lugger	All-in		15225.00	38425.00	0.00
joss1971	Unmatched bet		5375.00	33050.00	6007.50
joss1971	Show	A 6
Lugger	Show	K J
joss1971	Win	Flush to the Ace	33050.00		39057.50

apollo_11

I would certainly put a bigger bet in after the flop. Trying to trap is always a dangerous thing to do with a possible flush draw on the board.
You gave him odds of 11/2 after the flop and 3/1 after the turn. Odd that many would take to hit there flush or strait draws.
I would not be going putting such a large bet in after the river. I would check and see what size bet was put in and then decide whether to call or not.
I know other would disagree with me, but that is how I would have played it.

BADBOY985

SAME FOR ME BIGGER BET AFTER FLOP AND ALL IN AFTER TURN BUT AS YOU RIGHTLY SAY WHATEVER YOU DO HES PROBABLY NOT PUTTING DOWN THE ACE FLUSH DRAW

offshoot

stop betting small when you hit a big hand. Your first thought when hitting a big hand should be to start building the pot. The strategy of trapping either wins you a small pot or loses you a big one.

unknown_username

yeah, i think best move would have prob been all in on after flop, but i think he would have called anyway.

unknown_username

his all in was a value shove knowing he's gona get called by many 1p/2p type hands such as you did, even though you should be 100% folding there.

Raise bigger preflop

Bet 2/3rd pot flop and again on turn

check/call or check/fold river if he shoves

BlackFish3

you say you think he was calling most best... why not just bet big every street then and scoop a big pot?

unknown_username

Badboy, think your totally right.  Like u said i think he'd have called an all in on the turn.

Offshoot, your right, i'm just gonna bet out, although i think a big bet after the flop would have still had him calling, maybe big bet/all in on turn would have got rid of him.

Deadluck, i think he would have called most raises pre-flop, dont u?  But your right, i should have folded with 3 to the Flush out there after the river.  Got carried away and made a stupid mistake which knocked me out.  I had built stack up lovely too so am really annoyed with myself.

Blackfish, i mean in hindsite after i seen his cards he was gonna call.  At the time of playing hand i was trying to trap and didnt wanna scare him off with big bets. And i honestly thought he had nothing and was trying to steal on end.

Aski

I have to say I dont like the Min raise pre flop, especially with the KJ, that is a hand where you want to go 3 or 4 BB raise in my opinion. With the min raise he's getting 3.5 to 1 to call, and having a suited ace, think its unlikely he was going to fold to your bet there.

Cant argue with any of the other comments on the post flop play

Aski

brookbrid

U shud a put a 4x raise in on flop,or shuved,,


DONT BE SCARED OF GHOSTS

mr_mbro

In Response to Re: How should i have played this?:

yeah, i think best move would have prob been all in on after flop, but i think he would have called anyway.
Posted by Lugger

Hi Lugger
There is a difference, if you had got behind your hand as you say, his call WOULD have been a mistake. It might not be any comfort to you, but at least you wouldnt be questioning your play.
Btw, i agree why didnt you raise to a substantial amount, to call allows drawing hands along
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Hogg321

bigger bet post flop and on the flop for me, priced him in to play both times

Tikay10

When you see a "wet" Flop like K-J-x (2 of a suit) - & that is VERY wet - someone is likely to be chasing it, & may not let go easily. So bet properly.

You can only afford to slow-play, or trap, if the Board is dry - say K-8-2, Rainbow.

Look for the texture of flops.

If it contains two of a suit, someone may be on the Flush draw.

If it comes - as here - K-J-x - then remember that Q-T is a quite possible hand for Villain.

Or, if you hold, say, A-A, both black, & the Flop comes 8-9-T (all red), that is super-scary. Again, with A-A, if it comes paint-paint-paint, beware - many folks might have Called a Raise with paint-paint, so 2 pair is very possible.

Any all-paint flop is likely to be "adjacent" to Villain's likely holding.

Always assess the flop texture before deciding on your next course of action..

phil12uk

You bet 400 pre flop and 200 post flop.  That kind of bet is going to keep near enough most players in - A high, any pair or any draw.  I prefer to bet larger than my prev bet and make people pay to chase.

Action_Dan

In Response to Re: How should i have played this?:

You bet 400 pre flop and 200 post flop.  That kind of bet is going to keep near enough most players in - A high, any pair or any draw.  I prefer to bet larger than my prev bet and make people pay to chase.
Posted by phil12uk

Excellent point Phil - sounds ridiculously obvious but after each bet, the pot gets bigger so you should be adjusting/increasing your bet sizes accordingly! As for original post, whilst you did flop nice hand, it's still very vulnerable so even after making mistake by not betting bigger on each street, you shouldn't compound that mistake by calling off your entire stack on the end - even if you thought he was trying to represent and steal the pot, when you get that read wrong it's your whole tournament so with your stack, you should've folded and waited for better spot!

unknown_username

Deadluck, i think he would have called most raises pre-flop, dont u?  But your right, i should have folded with 3 to the Flush out there after the river.  Got carried away and made a stupid mistake which knocked me out.  I had built stack up lovely too so am really annoyed with myself.

Wrong way to think about it preflop, I'd be calling with any 2 there just because I'm in for so much value and against a minraiser, to be brutally honest, I generally know I'm against a worse player and what their weaknesses are so can play profitably against them in later streets.