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100 nl is this just a call on river or should i go all in?

edited August 2012 in The Poker Clinic
ronnieg197Small blind £0.50£0.50£98.50IDONKCALLUBig blind £1.00£1.50£102.94 Your hole cards22   hhamza162Fold    NadCall £1.00£2.50£26.36NaomhCall £1.00£3.50£118.70BAD3XTASYFold    ronnieg197Call £0.50£4.00£98.00IDONKCALLUCheck    Flop  1062   ronnieg197Check    IDONKCALLUBet £3.00£7.00£99.94NadCall £3.00£10.00£23.36NaomhCall £3.00£13.00£115.70ronnieg197Call £3.00£16.00£95.00Turn  5   ronnieg197Check    IDONKCALLUBet £10.00£26.00£89.94NadFold    NaomhCall £10.00£36.00£105.70ronnieg197Call £10.00£46.00£85.00River  J   ronnieg197Check    IDONKCALLUBet £26.00£72.00£63.94NaomhRaise £52.00£124.00£53.70

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  • edited August 2012
    V most oppos i am all in here mate but v this oppo i carnt click all in fast enough :)
  • edited August 2012
    me personally i`m allin here they prob have j10 or jx spades if they have 34 that would just be sick m8
  • edited August 2012
    Insta shove.

    Board is relatively safe but he could have anything as you allowed the limp. Raise pre, even if just a min raise. Just allows you to bet bigger on each street.

    No draws came in on the river so you have to think he'd reraise the turn if he had straightened.

    He could easily have JT or something like that. Either way i think it's probably profitable long term to shove as if he's gonna raise a Jx hand there he's probably the type who'll stack off thinking he's got the nuts on what also looks a half decent board for him.
  • edited August 2012
    haha sorry i shouldnt put players name up but had notes on this person in 1st 10 mins lets say lil bit loose :)
  • edited August 2012
    im not thinking str8 maybe a higher set got there if i knew the info on this person after 20 mins of play im instant shoving but this was like the 3rd -4th hand in 
  • edited August 2012
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  • edited August 2012
    turned out if i did shove i wouldnt of got called as the opponent had 9 10  at the time i was thinking im never folding but should i shove i was worried of set of 6s or set of 5s  hense y the click back min raise 
  • edited August 2012
    Do not ever worry about set over set. It happens so little that you are losing value in the long by not getting the extra chips when you have a set.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: 100 nl is this just a call on river or should i go all in?:
    Do not ever worry about set over set. It happens so little that you are losing value in the long by not getting the extra chips when you have a set.
    Posted by Mohican
    I don't fully agree, there are plenty of spots where set over set is more likely, eg. multiway or limped pots, with a low flop like this and getting action, is far more likely than set over set in a HU pot that comes paint paint paint.
  • edited August 2012
    If oppo had 9,10, he is probably going to call your all in shove.
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: 100 nl is this just a call on river or should i go all in?:
    If oppo had 9,10, he is probably going to call your all in shove.
    Posted by KKrippler
    He isn't you Kripples ;)
  • edited August 2012
    If your thinking about just calling then maybe your playing too high imo

    Can't see oppo having a higher set as played, surely raising flop or turn would make more sense than min raising river.
    If oppo has set of jacks then like really wtf !

    J10 is the only hand that makes sense

    but then again I am senseless !
  • edited August 2012
    i am thinking 55 or 66 rancid
  • edited August 2012
    In Response to Re: 100 nl is this just a call on river or should i go all in?:
    i am thinking 55 or 66 rancid
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    is oppo that bad to only get minimum value with a set !
  • edited August 2012
    bet more turn and river
  • edited August 2012
    V a fish shove

    V decent player flat, he has 66 or air
  • edited August 2012
    100% shove on the river. The way it's played out I can't really put them on the straight despite the limped pot (who limps 34 at this level UTG+1) 
    You're only losing to a bigger set 55 or 66 (any other set you'll be hearing about Pre). If he's got 55 or 66 then you're unlucky but I'd be getting my money in ASAP. You definitely get value from 2pair hands. I'm putting him on Jd10d. Flat call seems far too nitty. If I'm reading it right the villain has put over half his stack in by this point so I can't see him folding if he's playing 9,10 this way.
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