Its ok saying there are loads of sats but if u have to go to work ( which i think alot do) by the time u get home its to late ? But still my point is 50% on but in but no more on the prize pool
Think its disgraceful move by sky, us lower stakes players just arent being looked after, theres barely any tournies five pounds or below, 95% of the tournies on this site are way outta our bankroll... OH WAIT..
Its ok saying there are loads of sats but if u have to go to work ( which i think alot do) by the time u get home its to late ? But still my point is 50% on but in but no more on the prize pool Posted by bungle72
Hi sir if you look outdoors you will see the sun is shining, this means less people are going to play on sky, would would sky want to give money away with over priced gtds..
Problem you got is you cant have the main to small or the guarantee will have to come down this is the reason for them goin up to £33 as the guarantees aint bein met at £22 i guess
The only reason the friday rebuy usually smashes the gurantee is due to it bein a rebuy and having addons eg
If you had a main event £11 buy in guarantee would be £3k (300 runners) due to sky not having the traffic eg
Monday and thursday Bounty hunters are the only realistice field sizes as ppl love action and this is what they give.
As bolly pointed out yes you can satelitte in cheap eg but there are alot of players who play on sky for a living and they want the bigger buy in tournies
There are also plenty of tournies after the main evnt has started for £5.50 £11 buy ins eg if anything there is alot of smaller buy ins n not enough bigger buy ins
This is why im glas sky has brought in the 5pm £1k gtd and 6pm £1kbh for £33 buy ins these wer much needed
I think the guarantee is a red herring. To a lot of people that makes no difference as the guarantee is beaten in the main event over 95% of the time.
I thought that the £20 / £30 buy in Main Event bridged the gap between the majority of tournaments and the £100 Roller type events. I liked the varying buyins because it priced me in a couple of nights per week. Numbers will go up in September but I guess that Tuesday & Wednesday nights will be lower than a year ago. If instead of getting 300 runners, it drops to 200 runners then SKY will drop the buyin back to £20 because they want big numbers in the Main Event.
Over the years SKY have made quite a few mistakes but they have got a lot more things right. Also they are usually happy to admit when they get something wrong. Maybe the numbers on a Tuesday & Wednesday are less than on a Sunday?
Its ok saying there are loads of sats but if u have to go to work ( which i think alot do) by the time u get home its to late ? But still my point is 50% on but in but no more on the prize pool Posted by bungle72
This would be solved by any sats working on a Step/token basis where any seat gained for a £33 tournament could be used to enter any £33 tourny. Sats could then run later into the evening and used the folowing day or whenever player wants
In Response to Re: £33 mains : This would be solved by any sats working on a Step/token basis where any seat gained for a £33 tournament could be used to enter any £33 tourny. Sats could then run later into the evening and used the folowing day or whenever player wants Posted by mattless
Excellent idea. A lot of entries must be lost because players can't play in the exact tourny from a satelite.
well ty u all for your points some i like some i dont but ty all But i still think that is is wrong that it goes up 50% and there is no added fund to the ppool. And on the point from sky dave that it is only tusday and wednesday is a bit odd because that monday and thruday and saturday is allready £33 any way so the only 2 that are not are sunday at £55 and friday being £11 rebuy. Posted by bungle72
What I meant was that the Tues/Weds tourneys were the only two which had moved from £22 to £33. I imagine I'd have a hard time telling you guys that the Friday night rebuy had become £33!
Also, the prizepool did move from £5k to £6k. As I said in an earlier post, it's not proportionate to the buy-in increase, but that's where we aim to get the tournament eventually.
ah the old you can't please all of the people all of the time thing again,
Personally as I try to sat in for any mains I enter as I'm sure the majority do, don't really see the problem with regards to the increase, as to the Gtee's it's gonna be a matter of trial and adjust as it goes, think it's been mentioned on several threads before that due to various issues gtee's are tweaked at certain times throughout the year but i'm sure it will all work out in the end
When running a business, You have the right to ensure you are making money At ALL TIMES!!
Also if sensible, YOU MUST NEVER Ostracise any customers and consult, when possible, clients opinions!!
This is a juggling act, which is difficult, let alone in time of recession!!
In my humble opinion, I feel sky do this resonably well, but if they stand to lose a K or Two on a tournie, [FAK That, Cannot do], I can see why thay have to act immeidiatly!!
Also, when it hits the fan....AS HERE MAYBE....Leadership needs to be shown, and problems/complaints need to be addressed swiftly!! I have witnessed this done well, but sometimes have witnessed decisions being made without consultaion or advance notice with reasoning...as in the 30p DYM & Here!!
Shoot Me...But honesty to situations & explanations, seem to be preventitive to problems..
For balance, see also the thread requesting BIGGER Tournaments, HERE
I have reached the age where I wear trousers with elasticated waistbands, "one size fits all", but it don't work in Poker I'm afraid, & glory be too, each to their own is the greatest thing ever.
It seems that two or three issues are being lumped together which confuses each issue.
Personally, I think the guarantee is a red herring to the question of "why have Tuesday & Wednesday's Main Events gone up without any notification?" The guarantees are nice but I decide on whether I play the main event based on the price and availability to play. Any overlay is a bonus but we all know that guarantees go down if there is overlay.
I accept that there may be a demand for higher buyin tournaments. Easy to find out. Run a few without guarantees. That will test demand. There used to be regular £100 Rollers but there are less frequent now.
I do think the community side of sky is great etc etc etc But i don't understand where this ethos of 'poker should be accessible to all'.. I mean that is just ludacris (i'm not sure if that's the correct spelling, but that's how the rapper spells it). Poker is cut throat, you play to take other peoples money and pay a cut to the platform that gives you the privelige. If you can't afford the main event, unlucky. You either have to find the money from life, or get better at poker. Sky offers plenty for al bankrolls and nobody has an entitlement to play in any poker tournaments. If sky persistently fails to offer a lower stakes player what they want then they can ultimately leave, but across the board sky looks after the small bankrolls. There are alot more considerations for a site when looking at tourney schedules and as such not everyone can be happy all the time. Posted by pr1nnyraid
This
I really like the £1m house at the end of our road but I can't afford it. Do I go crying to the estate agents demanding that I should be able to have it?
When I first started I didn't even consider playing the main events, not only because I wasn't good enough, but because I couldn't afford it. I've put years into playing and improving my game, now I enter these tournies without battering an eyelid. You just need to knuckle down, improve your game and your bankroll and you will be able to play them. Don't expect to pick up a golf club for the 1st time on Monday and expect to be in the ryder cup team by Sunday!
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But still my point is 50% on but in but no more on the prize pool
The only reason the friday rebuy usually smashes the gurantee is due to it bein a rebuy and having addons eg
If you had a main event £11 buy in guarantee would be £3k (300 runners) due to sky not having the traffic eg
Monday and thursday Bounty hunters are the only realistice field sizes as ppl love action and this is what they give.
As bolly pointed out yes you can satelitte in cheap eg but there are alot of players who play on sky for a living and they want the bigger buy in tournies
This is why im glas sky has brought in the 5pm £1k gtd and 6pm £1kbh for £33 buy ins these wer much needed
I thought that the £20 / £30 buy in Main Event bridged the gap between the majority of tournaments and the £100 Roller type events. I liked the varying buyins because it priced me in a couple of nights per week. Numbers will go up in September but I guess that Tuesday & Wednesday nights will be lower than a year ago. If instead of getting 300 runners, it drops to 200 runners then SKY will drop the buyin back to £20 because they want big numbers in the Main Event.
Over the years SKY have made quite a few mistakes but they have got a lot more things right. Also they are usually happy to admit when they get something wrong. Maybe the numbers on a Tuesday & Wednesday are less than on a Sunday?
When running a business, You have the right to ensure you are making money At ALL TIMES!!
Also if sensible, YOU MUST NEVER Ostracise any customers and consult, when possible, clients opinions!!
This is a juggling act, which is difficult, let alone in time of recession!!
In my humble opinion, I feel sky do this resonably well, but if they stand to lose a K or Two on a tournie, [FAK That, Cannot do], I can see why thay have to act immeidiatly!!
Also, when it hits the fan....AS HERE MAYBE....Leadership needs to be shown, and problems/complaints need to be addressed swiftly!! I have witnessed this done well, but sometimes have witnessed decisions being made without consultaion or advance notice with reasoning...as in the 30p DYM & Here!!
Shoot Me...But honesty to situations & explanations, seem to be preventitive to problems..
Good debate & GL ALL!!
Morning Guys & Lady People.
The comments are noted.
For balance, see also the thread requesting BIGGER Tournaments, HERE
I have reached the age where I wear trousers with elasticated waistbands, "one size fits all", but it don't work in Poker I'm afraid, & glory be too, each to their own is the greatest thing ever.
Personally, I think the guarantee is a red herring to the question of "why have Tuesday & Wednesday's Main Events gone up without any notification?" The guarantees are nice but I decide on whether I play the main event based on the price and availability to play. Any overlay is a bonus but we all know that guarantees go down if there is overlay.
I accept that there may be a demand for higher buyin tournaments. Easy to find out. Run a few without guarantees. That will test demand. There used to be regular £100 Rollers but there are less frequent now.