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can someone else try explain this, i cant?

swyer09 Small blind  150.00 150.00 2450.00
texsid Big blind  300.00 450.00 7155.00
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • K
     
webby234 Fold     
prh All-in  267.50 717.50 0.00
swyer09 Call  150.00 867.50 2300.00
texsid Check     
Flop
   
  • 2
  • Q
  • 5
     
swyer09 Bet  300.00 1167.50 2000.00
texsid Raise  600.00 1767.50 6555.00
swyer09 Raise  600.00 2367.50 1400.00
texsid Raise  600.00 2967.50 5955.00
swyer09 Call  300.00 3267.50 1100.00
Turn
   
  • 7
     
swyer09 Check     
texsid Bet  300.00 3567.50 5655.00
swyer09 Call  300.00 3867.50 800.00
River
   
  • 3
     
swyer09 Check     
texsid Bet  900.00 4767.50 4755.00
swyer09 All-in  800.00 5567.50 0.00
texsid Unmatched bet  100.00 5467.50 4855.00
swyer09 Show
  • 2
  • 2
   
texsid Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
prh Show
  • A
  • 4
   
texsid Win Three Queens 4665.00  9520.00
prh Win Flush to the Ace 802.50  802.50
this was on the bubble in an £11 DYM

Comments

  • edited November 2009
    what bit needs explaining? or am i missing something?
  • edited November 2009
    Some people will bet no matter what the situation is. I will not bet on the bubble unless I have the nuts after the river card.
    I am sure that they will learn from this experience.
  • edited November 2009
    2 good hands, 1 better hand
  • edited November 2009
    ahhh didn't see the bubble bit at the bottom lol
  • edited November 2009
    Betting on the bubble here is scandalous especially on the cash bubble of a DYM.

    trips are beatable, as shown by a flush.

    Why risk anymore chips, checking is always the best option. Even with trips I am checking down.

    By being greedy, it cost one guy a cash. More fool him. He should have folded. But at the end of the day, he should not be put in that position. Hard to fold trips when it may keep an shortie in the game, but to reraise is rediculous.

    Why do people not learn basic DYM bubble strategy.
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    Betting on the bubble here is scandalous especially on the cash bubble of a DYM. trips are beatable, as shown by a flush. Why risk anymore chips, checking is always the best option. Even with trips I am checking down. By being greedy, it cost one guy a cash. More fool him. He should have folded. But at the end of the day, he should not be put in that position. Hard to fold trips when it may keep an shortie in the game, but to reraise is rediculous. Why do people not learn basic DYM bubble strategy.
    Posted by Hale72
    They don't learn it for the same reason people don't learn basic cash or tourney play. These are the fish that keep others playing.
  • edited November 2009
    unfortunately, these fish can and do sometimes prevent the rest of us cashing.

    I have had to fold to a bet on the bubble before now, only to see the guy betting show air and treble up the shortie.

    A BASIC dym bubble strategy ultimately helps us all.
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    ahhh didn't see the bubble bit at the bottom lol
    Posted by ACESOVER8s
    right ffs im stupid and so are some others so people need to be more specific in the questions lol
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant? : right ffs im stupid and so are some others so people need to be more specific in the questions lol
    Posted by loonytoons
    i wasn't pointing out that you hadn't seen it loony, just showing that the penny had droped with me as i couldn't see anything wrong at first either lol and hale i agree it would help, just won't happen i'm affraid (although £11 DYM seems a high buy in for this type of schoolboy error)
  • edited November 2009
    Here is proof this sort of silly betting costs us cashes.

    As a result of this hand I ended up fourth. I had to call the all in, I had so much invested in the BB.

    post flop, I had to fold. Had it been checked down, I would have cashed, Again £11.00 DYM.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    villain Small blind  400.00 400.00 7680.00
    Hale72 Big blind  800.00 1200.00 360.00
      Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 4
         
    shortieAll-in  960.00 2160.00 0.00
    buttonFold     
    villainCall  560.00 2720.00 7120.00
    Hale72 Call  160.00 2880.00 200.00
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 6
    • 2
         
    villainBet  800.00 3680.00 6320.00
    Hale72Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    River
       
    • 6
         
    villainShow
    • Q
    • J
       
    shortie Show
    • A
    • J
       
    not so shortie Win Two Pairs, 6s and 2s 2880.00  2880.00
    still villainWin Two Pairs, 6s and 2s 800.00  7120.00
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant? : i wasn't pointing out that you hadn't seen it loony, just showing that the penny had droped with me as i couldn't see anything wrong at first either lol and hale i agree it would help, just won't happen i'm affraid (although £11 DYM seems a high buy in for this type of schoolboy error)
    Posted by ACESOVER8s
    no i meant i really am stupid lol
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    Here is proof this sort of silly betting costs us cashes. As a result of this hand I ended up fourth. I had to call the all in, I had so much invested in the BB. post flop, I had to fold. Had it been checked down, I would have cashed, Again £11.00 DYM. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance villain  Small blind   400.00 400.00 7680.00 Hale72 Big blind   800.00 1200.00 360.00   Your hole cards 7 4       shortie All-in   960.00 2160.00 0.00 button Fold         villain Call   560.00 2720.00 7120.00 Hale72 Call   160.00 2880.00 200.00 Flop     2 6 2       villain Bet   800.00 3680.00 6320.00 Hale72 Fold         Turn     7       River     6       villain Show Q J       shortie  Show A J       not so shortie  Win Two Pairs, 6s and 2s 2880.00   2880.00 still villain Win Two Pairs, 6s and 2s 800.00   7120.00
    Posted by Hale72
    thats really bad, i hate players like that, it does happen too much for my liking and they need to grow just an inch of a brain cell and evreything would be fine lol
  • edited November 2009
    what  needs  explaining    webby
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant? : thats really bad, i hate players like that, it does happen too much for my liking and they need to grow just an inch of a brain cell and evreything would be fine lol
    Posted by webby234
    I posted this hand purely to show that silly actions ultimately cost us money.

    The raiser had his cash guaranteed and by betting out, trebled up the shortie, at my cost. (although, I did make a little comeback and it took about another 5 hands to get rid of me)

    I know poker is a solo game ultimately, and if he wanted to bet, he had every right to do so, but had he folded, I would have had no option but to call anyway as I did not have enough chips left to post a blind next hand.

    I understand his call, but not his post flop bet. At the time, I had not hit, and I had to assume he had hit but could not risk going out in fourth by calling.

    The idea of a DYM is to get into the top three ASAP. The villian here did not follow this rule, but his stack size meant his cash was guaranteed so he was only going to hurt someone elses ROI.
  • edited November 2009
    call me stupid but i like to get aggresive around the bubble using other players fear of busting out. a set of 2s ,a set of qs and a flush/gutshot draw ,isuppose its down to the individual you either happy to cash or you want to push on to win it,ne who dares wins rodney!!
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    call me stupid but i like to get aggresive around the bubble using other players fear of busting out. a set of 2s ,a set of qs and a flush/gutshot draw ,isuppose its down to the individual you either happy to cash or you want to push on to win it,ne who dares wins rodney!!
    Posted by ellis01
    We are purely talking about a DYM situation here.

    In a DYM, it does not give you a single penny extra by finishing first. The idea is purely to get in the top three as quickly as possible.

    No one would ever dream of betting in this situation if there was an all in with multiple callers if a trip to Vegas was at stake, so why do it here. 
  • edited November 2009
    In Response to Re: can someone else try explain this, i cant?:
    call me stupid but i like to get aggresive around the bubble using other players fear of busting out. a set of 2s ,a set of qs and a flush/gutshot draw ,isuppose its down to the individual you either happy to cash or you want to push on to win it,ne who dares wins rodney!!
    Posted by ellis01
    It's a double your money so there is no need to win, 1st will get the same as 3rd so pushing on to win is not really a viable tactic.
  • edited November 2009
    iN THE SCHEME OF THINGS,,

    NO MATTER WHAT THE GAME,,AROUND THE BUBBLE ALWAYS BE AGGRESIVE,,

    NUMBER 1 COUNTS ALWAYS IN THIS GAME..
  • edited November 2009
    oh ok didnt realise im stupid .well in that case totaly agree
  • edited November 2009
    I have folded Aces in the bubble on double your money. Player next to me was going to be blinded out next hand. Its not worth it, even with aces.
  • edited November 2009
    wow cold deck or what
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