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2 similar hands firing OOP with air and getting there otr? to V bet or not? 30nl.
1) No reads here. We check calling? check folding? bet/calling? or shoving?
2) Again no reads but know this guy is a winning player. I've played with him quite abit and should really have some more information to give, but I haven't.
Happy to shove the river here? Or hope he checks back?
*Edit didn't realise how little he had back when I first re-read the HH, looks a no brainer now. Turn probably too big.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N1CK | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £30.26 | |
| gerry22 | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £104.52 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £1.20 | £1.65 | £25.20 | |
| AJ_Rockets | Fold | ||||
| 1-DAY | Call | £1.20 | £2.85 | £46.67 | |
| bolly580 | Fold | ||||
| N1CK | Fold | ||||
| gerry22 | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £1.80 | £4.65 | £23.40 | |
| 1-DAY | Call | £1.80 | £6.45 | £44.87 | |
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £4.80 | £11.25 | £18.60 | |
| 1-DAY | Call | £4.80 | £16.05 | £40.07 | |
| River | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | All-in | £18.60 | £34.65 | £0.00 | |
| 1-DAY | |||||
2) Again no reads but know this guy is a winning player. I've played with him quite abit and should really have some more information to give, but I haven't.
Happy to shove the river here? Or hope he checks back?
*Edit didn't realise how little he had back when I first re-read the HH, looks a no brainer now. Turn probably too big.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DOHHHHHHH | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £41.01 | |
| bolly580 | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £58.19 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| bawbag1 | Fold | ||||
| havinitoff | Fold | ||||
| AJ_Rockets | Raise | £0.90 | £1.35 | £28.95 | |
| EVY | Fold | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £3.30 | £4.65 | £37.71 | |
| bolly580 | Fold | ||||
| AJ_Rockets | Call | £2.55 | £7.20 | £26.40 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £4.00 | £11.20 | £33.71 | |
| AJ_Rockets | Call | £4.00 | £15.20 | £22.40 | |
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | £11.00 | £26.20 | £22.71 | |
| AJ_Rockets | Call | £11.00 | £37.20 | £11.40 | |
| River | |||||
| |||||
| DOHHHHHHH | All-in | £22.71 | £59.91 | £0.00 | |
| AJ_Rockets | |||||
Comments
h2 i dont like pre vs unknown, want to be 3betting a polarised range when we dont know how he plays, with kjo you will just get into messy spots with tpgk where you are probably just going to valuetown yourself
i want to say c/f river but he's so short.
im not a fan of how you played either hand but both hands seem like the players are caling to hit or have top pair 1st hand i think you get away with the move as i cant see what he has except from a j not great kicker
hand 2 i wouldnt be suprised if you lost all your cash and snap called with 2 pair straight or something else that beats you
both these hands are very badly played on river you going to get snapped off by better hands and lose all your cash
kinda out on a limb )
So basically how often would these oppo fold to the third barrel, are they realy folding TP to you with your image ?
Plus how often do you plan to actually be ahead before river to make this whole scenrio worhwhile, 60% of the time !
Think I am coming down with a cold, stooopId weather + air con !
Think your going to come unstuck here the majority of the time, but hey you kinda feel obliged to shove river now in both scenrios don't you. When your semi bluffing turn with equity and pick up river card for very possible TP, checking sometimes is best me thinks but it can't hurt to bet for some value can it. Even though with the river bet you may just value town yourself ) But I think it's reasonable to say oppo got TP on flop so why not go for some value init ! at least river shove is merged & stuff.
edit: I did say merged but not too sure what the range merging is all about )
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Do you ever stop to think how easy you would be to play against?
Barrell barrell barrell barrell 3bet light barrell barrell barrell yawnnn
Basically it would be +EV to just call you down with top pair / 2nd pair because you don't have it enough. Also are you taking this line when you actually have it? like if you have K9 and it comes 9 6 4 are you barrelling 3 streets as well?
If your opponents have adjusted to how you play then shoving the river is less bad, if they haven't adapted then shoving is terrible.
AJrockets seems competent but loves to hero so i'm guessing he snaped the river with a 9 or similar? Hand 1 you never get called by worse.
Loose aggressive isn't just raising wider and barreling wider.. you're play is so random and uncalculated.
Are you asking ppl to type out the answer on 'how to play loose aggressive style profitably at 6max? cos that would take an age on a forum and you need to have certain levels of perception and ability. You also need to listen more, ppl comment how wreckless you play but you haven't seemed to adapt.
From what i see of your hands and the way you talk about the game, I'm 100% sure this would not be an overnight process. Why don't you get some coaching, maybe someone watching you in game might help you gain some clarity??
Basically you just need to turn up with it more times than your oppo think you will )
classic differance is checking turn with 25% equity or betting it, don't think Dohhhhhhhhh play is that bad - can't understand why people are jumping all over him tbh - the majority would check river - obviously a safer option - but if Dohhhhhhh v/b river pot size and gets paid off then how is that bad -
If oppo's are calling him down lighter then frankly the trigger should go off that he needs to lower his bluffing frequency
adjust and exploit