Call or Fold?

mattless

All short stackers so immediately not sure any of them are that great, but still has to be a straight somewhere right?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
christja24	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£9.36
garner909	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£10.97
	Your hole cards	Q Q
mattless	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£13.62
jojo22	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£8.18
tutt	Call		£0.30	£1.05	£4.61
guna55511	Call		£0.30	£1.35	£7.10
christja24	Call		£0.25	£1.60	£9.11
garner909	Fold
Flop
		9 J Q
christja24	Check
mattless	Bet		£1.20	£2.80	£12.42
jojo22	Call		£1.20	£4.00	£6.98
tutt	Fold
guna55511	All-in		£7.10	£11.10	£0.00
christja24	Call		£7.10	£18.20	£2.01

percival09

I aint folding top set here

silentbob

I tell myself one of them has the made straight, hit the call button anyway & then shout out "I KNEW IT!" when one of them flips over KT.

I defo make the call here though. There's plenty of 2p combos out there & also the possibility that they could be drawing. Even if they've got the straight you've got outs.

grantorino

how could you fold

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

I tell myself one of them has the made straight, hit the call button anyway & then shout out "I KNEW IT!" when one of them flips over KT. I defo make the call here though. There's plenty of 2p combos out there & also the possibility that they could be drawing. Even if they've got the straight you've got outs.
Posted by silentbob

Good to know I'm not the only one who does this.

bolly580

obviously somone had K10/108 n you lost or you wouldnt post..

mattless

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

obviously somone had K10/108 n you lost or you wouldnt post..
Posted by bolly580

Yes, but the question still remains should you consider folding top set v 3 (potential) opponents when
 it is very likely there is a straight out there!

mattless

In Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

In Response to Re: Call or Fold? : Yes, but the question still remains should you consider folding top set v 3 (potential) opponents when  it is very likely there is a straight out there!
Posted by mattless

If for example board was monotone and we saw similar action, should we fold then?

Lambert180

The thing is though, you're always drawing to the 4th Q, 3 nines, 3 jacks, when the turn card comes you will have 3 more outs (if it wasn't already a Q, 9 or J). All of which make a FH obv so you're never gonna be in the worst shape i the world and 3way you're getting good pot odds

mattless

 Response to Re: Call or Fold?:

The thing is though, you're always drawing to the 4th Q, 3 nines, 3 jacks, when the turn card comes you will have 3 more outs (if it wasn't already a Q, 9 or J). All of which make a FH obv so you're never gonna be in the worst shape i the world and 3way you're getting good pot odds
Posted by Lambert180

If it goes 4 way which is likely. We potentially are facing a made straight plus either draws or more likely lower sets or various 2 pairs for other 2 oppos, all of which restricts our outs for the re-draw therfore there has to be an argument to fold?

hndlkcool

fold

 think you got first one beat prob 2 pair trying to protect it with oversized bet 

second player think prob has str8 as he hasnt tried to price any one else out with 2 players who say they have something still to act behind him 

Lambert180

You cannot fold top set on the flop when both players start the hand with less than 100BB IMO

percival09

why are people still debating this hand? It's a no brainer

rancid

u have top set, beating 2 prs + other sets + draws +AA/KK

one hand beats you

+ u have outs if K10 gets flipped

Discectomy

Call every time.