have to fold the river here?

jams88 · September 2012

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mr_swine	Small blind		£0.20	£0.20	£45.90
tatohead	Big blind		£0.40	£0.60	£49.36
BILKOMGS	Sit out
	Your hole cards	8 8
VintageDP	Raise		£1.20	£1.80	£38.20
jams88	Call		£1.20	£3.00	£59.43
bruiser59	Fold
mr_swine	Call		£1.00	£4.00	£44.90
tatohead	Fold
Flop
		8 J J
mr_swine	Bet		£2.00	£6.00	£42.90
VintageDP	Call		£2.00	£8.00	£36.20
jams88	Raise		£8.40	£16.40	£51.03
mr_swine	Fold
VintageDP	Call		£6.40	£22.80	£29.80
Turn
		J
VintageDP	Check
jams88	Check
River
		7
VintageDP	Bet		£14.00	£36.80	£15.80
jams88	Fold
VintageDP	Muck
VintageDP	Win		£21.66		£37.46
VintageDP	Return		£14.00	£1.14	£51.46

percival09 · September 2012

any reads/info? kinda depends if he's ever floating otf w/ 2 overs, but I suppose he'd just go for showdown with A high. QQ/KK/AA makes sense more often than not, even 1010. so yeah I probs muck

jams88 · September 2012

no reads as such new to this level so not sure whos a reg whos good ect. Havent seen this guy do anything too unusual in the 20mins or so i have been at the table. Can't see any hands he would call my raise on flop with then lead here must be a jack or overpair?

Should i have bet turn to ensure he can't bluff at me? or do we like this line?

yb · September 2012

haven't played cash on here for a while but iirc it's a super standard c/f from the turn onwards

rancid · September 2012

have to fold but oppo could be bluffing - it's posible but the majority your behind - ul nh

but yeah it's super thin value on turn if your bet, so check it doon - does leave you open to a bluff but you could call if your curious enough + make notes

do we ever call for info ) or let someone else pay the piper